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Jimmy Carter: Iran Rescue Effort Should Have Worked

Friday, September 17, 2010


All three were private citizens at the time.

Ronald Reagan was a private citizen  (from  January 7, 1975 to January 20, 1981, when he entered the White House) when he ran for the presidency in 1980.

George H.W. Bush was a private citizen from  January 20, 1977 to January 20, 1981 (when he became VP).

Bill Casey was a private citizen, managing the Reagan-Bush campaign in 1980.

In a democracy, a nation's foreign policy is determined by the People through who they elect and those policies that the political candidates espouse during campaigns.  We had a foreign policy in place that one congressman (Charlie Wilson) managed to wreck through a conspiracy of people outside of government and accountable to absolutely nobody.  

I'll tell you what I tell every conservative and neocon obsessed with commies: 

At least when the Soviets were in charge, we knew where the nukes were.  

Now?  Not so much.

You sound to me like somebody who believes the BS that the US supports democracies around the world.  We don't.  Our foreign policy is based on exploiting cheap labor around the world (and here at home)  and the chickens are now coming home to roost.  
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Jimmy Carter: Iran Rescue Effort Should Have Worked


Screw coincidence.  The same people adding new layers to the same old scandals keep showing up since Nixon.  The innocent naivete of liberals has made it very easy for the Cheneys and the Bushes and the Rumsfelds and the James Bakers to continue their crimes through the decades, from one administration to the next.  
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I've been waiting for 30 years to hear more about this.  

The only way it's going to happen is if the American people demand it.
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Jimmy Carter: Ted Kennedy Cost America National Health Insurance Decades Ago


Democrats run away from health careA handful of House Democrats are making health care reform an election year issue — by running against it. 

At least five of the 34 House Democrats who voted against their party’s health care reform bill are highlighting their “no” votes in ads back home. By contrast, party officials in Washington can’t identify a single House member who’s running an ad boasting of a “yes” vote — despite the fact that 219 House Democrats voted in favor of final passage in March. 

One Democratic strategist said it would be “political malfeasance” to run such an ad now. 

Democrats have taken that advice to heart; it appears that no Democratic incumbent — in the House or in the Senate — has run a pro-reform TV ad since April, when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) ran one.

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Jimmy Carter: Ted Kennedy Cost America National Health Insurance Decades Ago


Democrats Spend More on Advertising Positions Critical of Reform Law

Democratic candidates have spent more than three times as much on advertising critical of the federal health reform law than they have in support of it, according to a new analysis from Kantar Media. 

According to Evan Tracey of Kantar, since the start of Congress' summer recess in August, Democrats have spent $930,000 on anti-reform ads, compared with $300,000 on ads favorable to the overhaul. Even the Democratic campaign ads praising the law have offered "tepid support" for the overhaul.


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Obama's expanded the wars beyond Afghanistan & Iraq, into Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, & increased military spending. The American taxpayer is going to be footing the bill for much of the clean-up of the BP oil blowout, as well as other unforeseen & unknowable disasters coming our way. We're going into a double-dip recession (it's a DEPRESSION). We can't get this president to do for the People what he's doing for the Corporations, & you think ObamaCare is "a start" towards public healthcare, aka affordable quality medical treatment for all?

Obama's got a 'Deficit Commission' going that'll deliver that bad news on behalf of Plutocrat Obama. Because Obama, corporate t00I that he is, will sooner cut SocialSecurity & all social programs, than take a dime away from the Corporate Welfare going to his Corporate Masters.

This is yet another method by which Obama and the DLC-controlled Democrats have let the Bush-Cheney administration and the 'Haves' get away with the greatest heist on America's middle class. Not only get away with the heist, but CONTINUE the heist.
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Too late; I'm already started (on the 'donut hole').

Obama traded away the single biggest costs' savings and bargaining chips for lowering pharmaceutical costs for Americans (on drugs that only exist because the American taxpayer subsidized their R&D on the proviso that We The People would wind up owning these drugs, i.e., getting them dirt cheap) when refused to allow the government to bargain on drug costs and reimportation.  

These greedy b@stards (PhRma, Insurance industries) got windfalls from Republicans AND Democrats with the Medicare Reform Act of 2003.  Imagine their delight when in 2010, Democrats let it happen again.


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ObamaCare is about forcing Americans to purchase 'junk insurance'. It does nothing to reign in the skyrocketing costs of healthcare. It's not healthcare for all. None of the loopholes discovered (surprise!) a day after its passage have been closed (it doesn't cover all children, it doesn't keep all under 26-year-olds on their parents' insurance, etc.).

With the deal that Obama made with phRma, hospitals & the AMA & Big Insurance, there can be no PublicOption as long as Obama's in the WhiteHouse. The only "start" about it is that it's the beginning of the end of all public healthcare programs (Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, CHAMPUS, veterans' care, etc.). 

http://www .youtube.c om/watch?v =DgKLMhk2m 1Y 

And don't start me on 'the donut hole'!  


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The BS talking points, which just happen to be l!es.

But don't believe me  Read it for yourself - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/27/preexisting-condition-ins_n_696061.html#comments>
Even if it had been true, do you realize what you're settling for?  

Let's look at the 26-year-old on his parents' insurance.  That's as long as his parents have jobs (or are independently wealthy).  It's only as long as his parents are able to afford to pay for their own insurance, then on top of that,  their adult children's insurance. And then, G0d forbid, the actual cost of medical treatment should the adult child get sick and need medical care.

Aside from being an interesting small special interest group that this provision in the legislation applies to , it doesn't address the actual problems: 

Where are the jobs for these 'up-to-26-years-old's, that keep them living in their parents' home?  It doesn't keep premiums costs down.  Nor does it make medical treatment affordable.   Have you forgotten that beyond the costs of the premium, there's deductibles and co-pays?



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Jimmy Carter: Iran Rescue Effort Should Have Worked


The Iranians held the hostages due to treason committed by the Reagan-Bush campaign. 

http://www .consortiumnews.com/ 2010/062410.html

http://www .consortiumnews.com/ 2010/061710.html

http://www .consortiumnews.com/ archive/xfile.html

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/091710.html

Ronald
Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Casey and their gang should have faced trial and prison, just as Joanne Herring should have (Charlie Wilson's War). In a democracy, private citizens do not get to use the government and its resources, particularly its military, for their own personal gain and purposes.
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Obama Names Elizabeth Warren To New Post Setting Up Consumer Protection Agency


We don't need an advocate.  We need a mover and a shaker.

She has no power in this position.  Obama and Geithner are free to ignore her.
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Obama Names Elizabeth Warren To New Post Setting Up Consumer Protection Agency


The banks, the DLC, the GOP, Chris Dodd, are all happy she's been put into a position where she has no authority whatsoever.

She will never say anything that isn't cleared by Obama and the White House, if she ever speaks in public at all from this adviser position.

She can tell Obama what she thinks, and he and Geithner are free to ignore her advice.

Just when you think 0bamab0ts can't get any stup!der, they invent a whole new level of dvmber.
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Precisely.  

This reminds me of an old episode of Taxi, where the beautiful Emily breaks up with Louie the grotesque after treating him like her slave.  She tells him that her psychiatrist explained to her that she can never really love him because he lets her treat him so badly, as an errand boy.  She can only love him if he is elusive, if he ignores her, if they never see each other again.  

As it sinks in with Louie, he asks her about the ground rules for this new relationship where they will love each other, but from afar.  As he moves walks to the door of her apartment to leave, she screams in orgasmic delight, "With each step you take away from me, I'm loving you more and more".  

He asks her, "How do we communicate?  Do we talk on the phone?".

She says, "You write, I never respond."

This is Obama and the Democratic base.

Warren will advise Obama, and he will take it under advisement.  Then Geithner will do whatever the heII he wants to do.
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She will never speak publicly, as long as she is a special assistant to Obama and under Geithner.

She's been effectively silenced. 

This is a variation on what Obama's done to prominent liberals that he hinted he would bring into his administration.
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Clinton: Working To Stay Healthy For His Grandchildren (VIDEO)


I was initially going to say that it's magic.  (I just threw everything at it; bold, italic, underline, strikethru)

There's are buttons above the reply box on my screen (I thought everybody who replies here had the ability -- No?).    It started a few days ago, disappeared for a day, and now it's back.
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 Gore ran away from the Clinton-Gore record, for the most part. Remember "the people not the powerful" lame campaign slogan? 
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Gore ran away from Bill Clinton; not the Clinton-Gore administration record.  

Gore ran on a more populist record, too, than Clinton-Gore.

And the most relevant point you're forgetting is, GORE WON.

Gore got more votes in Florida.  Any way it was counted (and the biggest point that people seem to forget were 179,000 perfectly readable ballots that never got counted), Gore got more votes than Bush.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2006/jul/14/guardianweekly.guardianweekly1>
That was a stolen election.

There was a coup d'etat in this country in 2000.  A bIoodless coup, but a coup nonetheless.

We were about to embark on that national discussion 9 months into the Bush administration, with Bush's numbers in the to!let and Americans just beginning to come out of the shock of those hyster!cal post-election days in Florida.  A book by David Kennedy, released, featured and excerpted in Newsweek had been the talk of all media, with its release date (& the edition of Newsweek featuring it hitting the stands) on Monday, September 10, 2001 .   

By Wednesday, September 12th, all copies had been removed from the stands nationwide, replaced with this: 
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The only reason that the base of the Democratic Party went along with Clinton's pacts with Republicans, on everything from welfare reform to NAFTA, was because "once there would be improved economic conditions", he'd be able to put safety nets back in place -- O the promises of what could happen when his economic policies bore fruit!

Who didn't know that Republicans would be digging for anything to slow a Democrat's success down?  It's not like they weren't already doing it, on every burp and f@rt out of the Clinton administration.  Whitewater, travelgate, Vince Foster, etc., etc., etc.

With Congress shut down and Republicans spitting nails over being blamed for it, Clinton, bored, roaming the White House halls at night with nothing to do, began snapping an intern's thong?  Are you freakin' kidding me?????

Bill Clinton has yet to acknowledge the damage he did to the country, to Americans in all walks of life, but particularly those whose lives are the most precariously balanced -- The lower economic classes, who trusted him to do right by them.  He betrayed that trust shamelessly.   
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Why were you angry with him for a few years?

What does Hillary's resolution of his peccadilloes, whatever she resolved (and do you really think you have any idea what it is?), have to do with you?

Are you her girlfriend?  Are you their child?  

What he did and its effect on their marriage is their issue.  That has nothing to do with We The People.  

What he did as it related to how Republicans and the Corporate Masters of the Universe could turn it to their advantage (and against We The People) is very much our issue.  

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Sorry but the post I replied to was done by you @ 1:22 pm my time and that was AFTER it was announced he was going to CA. I have no clue that you might have been writing about this for any time at all. You don't see me on here much as I have a life to live and work to do so I don't really follow your posts.
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Then you do some research before you jump in to try to one-up and defend/offend. 

And since you're implying I'm Iying, here's one of the times previous to today (Sep 15, 2010 at 03:16:49) that I suggested it, very easily retrieved: 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Marcospinelli/stop-think-breathe_b_­716894_605­00872.html

I'm
not interested in what you think I need to stop assuming.  I got your number straight.  I slammed Clinton, provided facts to back up my argument, and you leapt to his defense (no facts, no refutation) and in a personally offensive manner to boot.   Your incivility exposes your agenda, and exactly who and what you are.   
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Then there's BillClinton cutting the safety net from beneath Americans with welfare "reform", while sending Americans' jobs overseas with NAFTA.

Did you also like it when Bill Clinton refused to investigate and prosecute the treason and crimes of Reagan-Bush ( (and now Barack Obama blocking all investigations & prosecutions into Bush-Cheney)?
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Since you love Bill Clinton so much, you must also have supported the war in Iraq, tax cuts for the rich, and Obama's upcoming privatizing of Social Security.  Because where was Bill Clinton when George W. Bush and Republicans were starting wars on lies & paying for it by blowing Clinton's "anticipated surplus" & giving out tax cuts to the rich? 

Let's also not forget that Bill Clinton got the same PDB that George W. Bush got.  He knew Bush was Iy!ng us into a war in Iraq. His wife didn't even read the NIE that was made available to her and all members of Congress in a locked & guarded room on the Hill. SenatorBobGraham, who didn't vote to give Bush the AUMF (Authorizat­ionToUseMi­litaryForc­e against Iraq), told Hillary that she'd better get herself to the room & read it. She admitted she hadn't. Is anybody seriously going to say that she & her husband didn't know the truth, that Bush & Cheney were about to spend us into servitude, third world nation status (all the while the Clintons were making HUNDREDS of millions from hedge funds)?

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Clintonomics, with its trade policies, relaxed regulations, overbuilt communities at a dizzying rate.  Clinton did it as it's been done for generations in the US with this back & forth between Republican- & Democratically-controlled administrations & Congresses: Don't lay out the vision or a plan in detail for voters to really understand and debate; just use vague focus-group tested rhetoric & buzzwords that get different groups of voters believing you intend to do what they like.  Don't build the infrastructure first. Create the conditions for runaway building, and when people are stuck in traffic most of their day, they'll then be pressured to agree to increasing the number of roads, give up their support of environmental protections. They'll even agree to privatizing the roads, because they won't want to be taxed.*

If (when) the economy tanks, foreign nationals will snap up US land and businesses at bargain basement prices.  No sooner did Mrs. Clinton become SoS, she helped further that plan -

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2009/07/14/video-mayor-bloomberg-hillary-clinton-stabbed-nyc-in-the-back/>
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Clintonomics, with its trade policies, relaxed regulations, overbuilt communities at a dizzying rate.  Clinton did it as it's been done for generations in the US with this back & forth between Republican- & Democratically-controlled administrations & Congresses: Don't lay out the vision or a plan in detail for voters to really understand and debate; just use vague focus-group tested rhetoric & buzzwords that get different groups of voters believing you intend to do what they like.  Don't build the infrastructure first. Create the conditions for runaway building, and when people are stuck in traffic most of their day, they'll then be pressured to agree to increasing the number of roads, give up their support of environmental protections. They'll even agree to privatizing the roads, because they won't want to be taxed.*

If (when) the economy tanks, foreign nationals will snap up US land and businesses at bargain basement prices.  No sooner did Mrs. Clinton become SoS, she helped further that plan -

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2009/07/14/video-mayor-bloomberg-hillary-clinton-stabbed-nyc-in-the-back/

[*By the way, this is how Bush & Cheney hope that history will judge them well in 50 years, as good conservatives who achieved what they set out to do (getting rid of government and the Great Society programs like Social Security, Medicare) by a backended way: By bankrupting the nation so there's no money to pay for any government services.]

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This just shows your political naivete and ig.no.rance, because the only other explanation for Clintonb0ts is that they're really Republicans.  

Michael Moore said it in 2000, Alan Greenspan said it in 2007, Rachel Maddow said it in 2010, and I may have said it before any of them (while he was still in office):  Bill Clinton was the best Republican president.

Do you know what you liked about Clintonomics?  It was unbridled growth.  Do you know that cancer is also 'growth'?

What pro-corporatists mean by "growth" is building on every square in of land. Residential, commercial building, primary residences, vacation homes, 3rd, 4th, 10th homes. Clear-cutting forests, paving the ground, planting GMO crops and grapevines to drain aquifers, laying gas and oil and power lines to homes and businesses, pouring asphalt highways for trucks to deliver to the suburbs and big box stores (IKEA, Hickory Farms).   It's the overbuilding of cities & towns, to where if you're not seriously damaging the ecological balance, you're seriously damaging the quality of people's everyday lives.  To the point where people have to spend hours in traffic every day just getting to work and back home.  

That's what Clinton did. 


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Obama, Rahm Emanuel and the DLC have worked overtime to elevate the Tea Party, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin (and now Glenn Beck) and turn the election into one of fear ("What if the Republicans get in?").

We exchanged one party that ran on fanning voters' fears (of Osama Bin Laden) for another doing the same thing (of teabaggers).

And in the meantime, the American People are being sold out, quite literally.

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I've been writing about this since Whitman began running the ad, and this announcement (Clinton to California to campaign for Brown) was announced AFTER I wrote the need for him to do it again this morning.

That is what you mindless zombie Obamab0ts don't get, and how you work against your (and all of our) best interests with your unquestioning, lockstep loyalty to Obama & DLC Democrats.  

Obama warned you himself during the 2008 campaign that we couldn't trust him, that we would have to make him do it, but you still don't get it.

Obama and the DLC-controlled Democratic Party cares more about catering to Republicans and Republicans' voters than to those in his own party with whom he allegedly shares the same ideology.  He is not out there selling Democratic policies, just like he wasn't out there selling real healthcare reform, public option, Medicare For All.  What Obama & the DLC-controlled Democratic Party passed was a massive corporate giveaway, a REPUBLICAN-type of legislation.  Not one Democrat is running on it.  Not one ad has been produced.  It is that bad.

We'll see just how legitimate Clinton campaigning for Brown is.  It could be another bait & switch, like this farce playing out with Elizabeth Warren being named as a special assistant to Obama, with no real authority or power.  This has become the habit and practice of DLC politicians.  They are DINOs, & will keep working on behalf of Big Corporations, selling the People out, as long as Obama's 'most ardent supporters' continue to blindly follow & trust them.
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Because it wasn't the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUkhM0uzpQ

http://www.meg-a-myths.com/?p=395

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even the CNN reporter who Clinton was hiding behind has admitted that he was wrong - http://www.factcheck.org/2010/09/jerry-brown-and-california-taxes/>
Bill Clinton has said that he's not running for public office again.  It's time he came clean, got straight with the American people, and started working to set right his part in the fleecing of the American people.  His life now needs to be all about doing penance -- HERE, not in Africa.
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That's not likely in a midterm election, with the record that Obama and DLC-controlled Democrats have to run on.  Instead of 'accomplishments' (pretty much non-existent, having nothing to do with Republican obstructionism), the Democratic machine has worked overtime to elevate the Tea Party and Sarah Palin and turn the election into one of fear ("What if the Republicans get in?").

We exchanged one party that ran on fanning voters' fears (of Osama Bin Laden) for another doing the same thing (of teabaggers).

And in the meantime, the American People are being sold out, quite literally.
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I'm not interested in Bill Clinton's diet or his potential grandchildren, or even his 'Global Initiative'.


The damage that Bill Clinton did to the nation at large and the Democrats in particular should have him looking for redemption by working on projects in the US.  


As co-founder of the DLC and his signing onto the Republican vision of privatization and deregulation of the US, gutting civil rights & privacy protections for Americans, eliminating social safety nets for Americans (and Glass Steagle), Clinton used the office as the means to amass a private fortune (only $100 million of it is public and known about -- much more apparently exists as a result of his dealings, secret, with Ron Burkle in hedge funds) while hanging Americans out to dry.


Why isn't Bill Clinton stumping for fellow Democrat Jerry Brown in order to keep the governor's office out of the hands of Republicans?

At the very least, why hasn't  the DNC gotten Bill Clinton to denounce Meg Whitman's ads using old clips of him bad mouthing Jerry Brown? 



His s3xual escapades in the White House led directly to ushering Bush-Cheney into office; we never should have fallen on our swords to protect him from impeachment.  We should have cut our losses, but instead we showed him the loyalty that he and the DLC have never shown Democratic voters.
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Overriding all of these races and polls is 'registered voters' and 'likely voters'.

Among 'likely voters', Republicans are favored.  It's only in the 'registered voters' polling that Democrats do better.
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I have been writing for a long time about Obama and the DLC wanting Republicans to take Congress and prevail in statewide races, because modern politics is not about governing, but about positioning for "the next election".  

The two parties have gamed the system to serve themselves and not the American People.  The two parties are really like siblings in a family competing for their parents' attention (corporations, and not We The People), and k!IIing off any potential competition from other siblings that might change the odds of their controlling the game.

There is no other way to explain things like Meg Whitman using clips of Bill Clinton (from the 1992 Democratic primaries where he bad-mouths Jerry Brown) and Bill Clinton not denouncing her for it and campaigning for Brown in the state where the Clintons have raised more money than any other for their own campaigns.
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Why isn't Bill Clinton stumping for fellow Democrat Jerry Brown in order to keep the governor's office out of the hands of Republicans?

At the very least, why hasn't  the DNC gotten Bill Clinton to denounce Meg Whitman's ads using old clips of him bad mouthing Jerry Brown? 

For all the bullying of the base of the Democratic Party by the DLC machine (Obama, Rahm Emanuel, the Davids, Axelrod & Plouffe are real nasty pieces of work), not to mention the Elizabeth Warren appointment trickery & chicanery ("No, trust us, 'special adviser' is much better"), that's something that they could do to improve Democrats' chances across the board.

And pressuring Democrats like Dianne Feinstein off of the anti-marijuana campaign initiative would go a long way towards increasing Democrats' numbers and the turnout.

But then the Democratic machine would have to actually be real Democrats instead of Republicans-in-Democrats'-clothing.
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Jimmy Carter: Ted Kennedy Cost America National Health Insurance Decades Ago


Obama's legislation is not a matter of "good enough" -- It's entirely too far and IN THE WRONG DIRECTiON!  it's a corporate bill.  It's a l!e, a sham.

Voters put Obama and Democrats into power to get them affordable quality medical treatment for everyone.  Voters didn't put Obama & Democrats into power to sell them a few million more insurance policies (with absolutely NO COST CONTROLS).

You have swallowed a load of BS about this legislation.  



Do you know that not one Democrat is running on this legislation.  Not one.   Not one ad has been produced touting healthcare "reform".  Obama and Democrats want and need voters to forget this legislation before the election, it is that bad for the People.  What Obama and the DLC-controlled Democratic Party did was the equivalent of privatizing the Social Security trust fund (which, by the way, Obama will be setting into motion after the election).

We've got to smarten Obama's 'most ardent supporters', who are the ones least able to endure what Obama's doing.  Because they're k!IIing us all with their ig.nor.ance.  They are no different than Bushies.

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Jimmy Carter: Ted Kennedy Cost America National Health Insurance Decades Ago


Again, what history is Carter rewriting?

Can you give me one revision?
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