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White House Expands On Executive Powers Once Criticized By Obama, No Doubt To The Delight Of The Base

Thursday, September 9, 2010


No, the people who identify as Teabaggers are Republican voters, always have been, and have been controlling the Republican Party since Ralph Reed told Karl R0ve, "I can deliver 5 million new voters (evangelical Christians) to Republicans come next election".

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1218060,00.html

http://www.theocracywatch.org/taking_over.htm
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White House Expands On Executive Powers Once Criticized By Obama, No Doubt To The Delight Of The Base


You do know that Nadar got ax by D party for warning USA that D's were now taking same money from same sources as R's, and that was a long while back.
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Let's not leave people with the wrong impression that people can get kicked out of political parties.  

People choose to belong to a political party; political parties don't throw members out.

 
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White House Expands On Executive Powers Once Criticized By Obama, No Doubt To The Delight Of The Base


I am a liberal Democrat, and I generally ignore Republicans (Teabaggers are Republicans) around here.

Obama is NOT a liberal or progressive.

Obama is a DINO.

If he didn't have a 'D' after his name, anyone looking at his actions would know that his most ardent supporters' belts don't go through all the loops.   The 'D' after the name is a brand you believe and trust in (as did I), despite the fact that it's the same 'soap' (product) as what Bush & Cheney gave us. 
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And no ethics charges have been brought against them.  Only Democrats, like Eric Massa, Charlie Rangel, Maxine Waters.

Democrats control Congress, and Obama controls the DoJ.  

Do you know why no criminal charges or ethics violations have been brought against Republicans?

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/08/02/waters-ethics-case-has-porter-goss-arguing-on-other-side/>
Which Speaker of the House's brilliant idea was it to let that happen on her watch?  

Why is Obama blocking investigations and prosecutions into the Bush administration?
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White House Expands On Executive Powers Once Criticized By Obama, No Doubt To The Delight Of The Base


The Tea Party is the Republican Party.

It's the method by which the GOP is activating their base.
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Yes, there was none.

If that was a problem for you then, why isn't it now?
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Where to start, where to start, where to start with you.

Whether he would have gotten us into the wars is kind of irrelevant to debate at this point now, don't you think?  He's keeping us in these wars, and he's doing it in a mighty dishonest way.  He and Democrats ran on putting the war on budget, ending supplemental bills.  We're not past the third supplemental since Obama got into the White House.

If you must continue to delude yourself into thinking Obama's a good guy who never would have started those wars, and who has only the best of intentions (I don't share that opinion anymore), but got a bad deal, then think of all this as a kind of relay race where the Corporate Masters of the Universe have charted out their plans years in advance and select the politician/personality best able to achieve those plans in 4 year increments.  If you want to l!e the country into war, then George W. Bush is your man to front it (with Dick Cheney actually running the operation from the shadows).  

And after 8 years of them, the American people aren't going to go for another team like that.  They're going to want HOPE & CHANGE, with a persona they can believe in and trust.  Barack Obama.  
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Yes.

Robert Reich was on Dylan Ratigan a couple of days ago (he has a book coming out this month that talks directly to this) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92pqa0_snRQ
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White House Expands On Executive Powers Once Criticized By Obama, No Doubt To The Delight Of The Base


The short answer is that it keeps the parties competitive, eager to outdo the other in service to the corporations.

Before Obama gave Big Insurance & PhRma the greatest giveaway, Bush and the GOP (and a ton of Democrats) put through the greatest giveaway to Big Insurance & PhRma with the Medicare Reform Act of 2003, 


It's going to keep going back and forth like that until real campaign finance reform happens and our elections are totally publicly financed or until Congress and the White House can't borrow any more money in our names to hand out to corporations.

The latter is going to happen before the former.  

We're doomed.
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White House Expands On Executive Powers Once Criticized By Obama, No Doubt To The Delight Of The Base


Over the course of US history, corporations have managed to game our political system, and done it so effectively that the two-party system competes to serve corporate interests while defending that service as, "What's good for GM (corporations) is good for America (We the People)". 

DLC Democrats who control the Democratic Party and Republicans are corporate t00Is. Like siblings competing for the attention and approval (campaign contributions) of a parent, Republicans and DLC-controlled Democrats try to outdo each other in delivering for their real constituent, Big Corporations. The trick for them has been to make it seem as if they were really working on behalf of We the People. 

Democratic voters have mistakenly believed that Obama&Democrats were for strong regulations on banks, Wall Street, investigations, prosecutions, restitution of what has been robbed from the middle class and poor for the past 30+ years, environmental clean-up, clean, sustainable renewable energy (& that isn't nuclear), putting an end to the wars and occupation of Iraq & Afghanistan, affordable, quality universal healthcare (which ObamaCare is not), and more. The DLC-controlled Democratic party gives lip service to these & all populist issues, because like the Republican Party, the DLC works for the benefit of transnational corporations.

Obama is no better than Bush-Cheney.

Unless & until there is drastic and uncompromising change to our campaign financing system, until corporations are no longer 'persons' and are prohibited from participating in elections and politics, all efforts to reform government are useless.
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Who are these "liberals" you're speaking of?

The Obama administration is NOT liberal.

If you want to be part of the discussion and taken seriously, learn who the players are.  

Do you know what and who the DLC is?  
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Talk about cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

By your logic, you make your decision about who is best for you by who Teabaggers hate.

You need to stop voting -- It's you that the Teabaggers have running in circles.
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White House Expands On Executive Powers Once Criticized By Obama, No Doubt To The Delight Of The Base


Gitmo, like DADT, like the wars, can be ended through executive orders.

Even if it were true that Republican obstructionism was holding anything up (Obama & Democrats don't need Republicans to pass anything), there are ways around Republicans, ways to move them, move Blue Dogs, but Obama doesn't do any of it.

Once the 2008 campaign was over, Obama dug in his heels, did a 180-degree turn on his positions, sloooooooo­oooooooooo­oowed the momentum for CHANGE down (with a tentative 60-seat majority in the Senate and two Democratic senators at de@th's door) to "work in a bipartisan manner" with the GOP which wasn't interested in working with Democrats (Democrats had gotten control of Congress in 2006).

The only revisionist history is being done by Republicans and Obama's 'most ardent supporters' (DLC).
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 I know my social security will be destroyed by Republicans....do not touch my social security.
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It's Obama who has put social security on the table.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/04/simpson/index.html>
http://www.truth-out.org/is-defaulting-national-debt-table63023
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What do you think is more likely?:

An Obama administration locking up Beck/Palin or the "professional left"?

And in the alternative, a Bush or Cheney administration locking up their critics on the right or the left?
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During the 2008 campaign, Obama told people they had to stay involved after the election. They couldn't just vote for him, go away for four years & expect that he'd do what they had hoped. He said that there were powerful interests working against what the people wanted, & if WeThePeople wanted Obama to do our bidding, we would have to "make him do it".

Obama's most ardent supporters forget that those of us who criticize Obama are only doing what he warned us needed to be done: NOT to trust him. 

Since the election (& even before, with his FISA vote), Obama's been deceptive, breaking every campaign pledge & promise, conceding the positions of the left (getting nothing in return), & hobbling real Democrats at every turn while making Republicans & BlueDogs stronger & harder to beat in 2010 & 2012.

Obamabots are the most immediate problem; they help him screw them (& us) over. Until Obamabots wake up to these facts, they're their own (& our) worst e n e m ies, & the reason we don't get what we all thought we were voting for when we voted Obama & Democrats into the majority.
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Obama, in his own words:


Transparency Will Be Touchstone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72g7qmeP1dE

"On
transparency", "About inviting the people back into their government again", and  "Part of the job of the next American president is making Americans believe that our government is working for them, because right now they don't feel like it's working for them.  They feel like it's working for special interests and it's working for corporations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K97hvOOdy_I


"We
need a president who sees the government not as a tool to enrich well connected friends and high-priced lobbyists, but as a defender of fairness and opportunity for every single American.  That's what this country's been about and that's the kind of president I intend to be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEMxfme7OQI

"Meetings
where laws are written will be more open to the public, no more secrecy.....No more secrecy.....":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQbQTrm_pSA



"Clintons
did health care the wrong way, behind closed doors": 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvyharXBI0Q 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU0m6Rxm9vU 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBtIKgGHYPQ


"The
American people are the answer":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2cvru2TH-s 


Obama's
Transparency Problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IODbwOhZYEM
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You need to differentiate between Democrats.

Do you mean Democrats, as in little 'D's (voters)?

Or do you mean Democratic politicians (big 'D's), in which case you need to differentiate between the DLC Democrats, the Blue Dogs, the liberals, the progressives, and everyone else.

Most little 'D's don't even know what or who the DLC is, yet it controls the Democratic Party.
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Dissembling to take the nation into war is an impeachable offense.

Dissembling to get voters to believe you're something that you're not isn't.

There's no evidence that Obama has committed crimes, which the same can't be said for Bush & Cheney.  

There's a world of difference between being corrupt and being criminally corrupt.  

One gets you a ticket to prison, and the other one gets your a one-way ticket back to your home state.  Hopefully.  
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Obama is asserting that the president has the right to assassinate American citizens without due process or any oversight of any kind.


There are those who may trust Obama with that kind of power (I'm a liberal Democrat, and I don't), but how would you feel about another Bush administration (Jeb BUSH & Liz CHENEY?) having that kind of power?  Do you recall when Lynn Cheney lobbied for the arrest and imprisonment of critics of the Bush administration for treason?



How much longer before criticism of an administration gets an American citizen a ticket to some dungeon off the grid in the far east?  

How do you know it isn't happening already?

Under Obama, we have an out of control military, murdering Afghan civilians.  

The founders foresaw the danger of this kind of unchecked power, allowed to operate in secrecy.
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This is the latest nonsensical White House talking point.

What do you imagine he knows now that he didn't know then, that would have caused Obama to flip-flop on just about everything he campaigned on?
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To date, not a single victim of the Bush administration’s torture program has had his day in court. If today’s decision is allowed to stand, the United States will have closed its courtroom doors to torture victims while providing complete immunity to their torturers.



Obama has EXPANDED on Bush's push for unchecked executive power.

Obama has blocked all investigations and prosecutions into the Bush administration. The government can kidnap you and send you to be tortured, yet even if agents of the US government agents (CIA, private contractors) acknowledge what they were doing, if the government wants to call their own law-breaking a secret, the most liberal Circuit Court in the country agrees they can.

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/09/08/9th-circuit-the-government-can-do-anything-to-you-and-hide-it-under-state-secrets/


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Obama, Elizabeth Warren, Meet Amid Speculation She Could Be Picked To Head Consumer Protection Agency


Robert Reich has a book coming out this month that talks about that, too.

He was on Dylan Ratigan's show last week, and explains the economics of the last 30 years elegantly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92pqa0_snRQ
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Those "two jokers" got their way in a Democratic administration with a Democratic Congress.  Pro-business, pro-corporate.
 
In a real Democratic administration with a real Democratic Congress (and not a DLC-controlled Democratic Party), real representatives of the Democratic Party (the base, 70% of the party, liberals) would have been named to those positions.  And with a real Democratic president, we would have had real regulatory reform and massive economic stimulus benefiting the People and not the richest of the rich.  As well as Manhattan Projects on alternative clean green sustainable energy, criminal indictments against BP, and a restoration of the Constitution, etc.

All you're talking about is packaging.  Whoever gets into power, both are the same.  A 'D' after the name is a brand you believe and trust in, despite the fact that it's the same 'soap' (product) as what Bush & Cheney gave us. 
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The government has been complicit in keeping h8 and fear of others who are different, whether it's race, religion, economic status, etc.  

It's an effective way to manipulate the population and keep the People from going after the real culprits: Politicians and the powerful they are really representing.

The government has the power and the ability to promote positive public relations events between rivaling groups, but doesn't.  

We need a Manhattan Project for the new millenium that includes setting the Peace Corps loose in our own country, bringing warring groups together to work on and create infrastructure projects all across the US, for the benefit of everyone.

The real problem behind this, why nothing is going to change until we have real campaign finance reform in the US is that politicians need us to to h8 each other.  Us versus Them, fear of the other, is what gets us to the voting booths.
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There is no deal.  Nor should there be.  

9/11 was a criminal act by a group of rogues.  There's not even agreement on who those rogue criminals were, and given how our government has exploited xenophobia to get us into and keep us in wars for oil, the skepticism is healthy.  
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