[The Godfather, Part 2 - About the unrest in Cuba}
Michael Corleone: I saw a strange thing today. Some rebels were being arrested. One of them pulled the pin on a grenade. He took himself and the captain of the command with him. Now, soldiers are paid to fight; the rebels aren't.
Hyman Roth: What does that tell you?
Michael Corleone: It means they could win.
When Obama wants something, he's shown he can go all Rove-like, relentless
Obama's in the Oval Office to mellow-tal
Obama is the grifter leading off the second half of the con game, which is to squeeze the rest of the dimes from the poor and middle classes. It began with part 2 of Bush's Medicare Reform Act of 2003 (high-pric
If you haven't seen this, you might find it enlighteni
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Just make sure that they're really liberals, progressiv
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Now, working are darndest to give O a strong progressive Congress might do wonders.
We were about to embark on that national discussion 9 months into the Bush administra
By Wednesday, September 12th, all copies had been removed from the stands nationwide
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You presume that Nader voters would've voted for Gore (or voted at all) when studies and exit polling have indicated that's not the case.
You blame Nader voters when, had Nader not even run, had he not be in the race, Bush still would have won. Because Republican
AlGore won. Gore got more votes in Florida. Any way it was counted (and the biggest point that people seem to forget is that there were 179,000 perfectly readable ballots that never got counted), Gore got more votes than Bush.
Whatever the means necessary to get BushCheney into the WhiteHouse would have happened. Had Nader been in the race, had he not in the race, whatever. Had Nader not run, the outcome would have been the same. The powers that be were not going to let Gore win, no matter what, and gamed it innumerabl
If the means for getting BushCheney into the White House required a close election and Nader not been running, some other means would have been used.
For pity's sake, the CIA was working on GOP absentee ballots in the weeks leading up to election day in Florida. That was the most amazing revelation from the televised court hearings in the post-elect
Have you forgotten Jeb Bush's vote purging scheme?
Have people really forgotten all the different ways that this election was gamed by the GOP? And that's just in Florida. And just the ways that we learned about because of legal proceeding
There was a coup d'etat in this country in 2000. A bIoodless coup, but a coup nonetheles
And Democrats suppressed investigat
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Don't feel bad; you could be (like me) and also stuck with one of the limited edition Shepard Fairey Obama posters. ;-)
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If this staffer isn't fired then he speaks for Obama and that's the message that Candidate Obama wants to go out to the base of the Democratic Party, that they can take a flying leap.
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The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
This isn't pessimism; this is rational assessment
Your comment seems to indicate that you believe Obama is going to change his perspectiv
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Just like G@re and B#sh. I'm sure that G@re would have handled things exactly like B#sh did had he been prez in 2000.
The old LOTE argument.
Despite the fact that Obama's continuing just about all of the BushCheney policies, even going BushCo one better: How do any of Obama's 'most ardent supporters
As a Democrat, I don't know how any Democrat can get behind this.
At this point, I would argue that Obama and Democrats are worse. Bush-Chene
Consider our elections as a business plan where the 'Corporate
If you want to l!e the country into war for oil and war-profit
And after 8 years of BushCheney the American people aren't going to go for another team like that. They're going to want HOPE & CHANGE, with a persona they can believe in & trust. BarackObam
Obama's 'most ardent admirers' just like the packaging better. I'm not talking skin color, although that may be a factor for some of them; I'm talking about how a 'D' after the name is a brand they trust believe and trust in, despite the fact that it's the same 'soap' (product).
You continue to support Obama and Democrats at the expense of your own best interests. As long as his numbers remain high, he does the bidding of corporatio
Why should Obama & Democrats do anything for you if they know they've got you over a barrel, that you're going to vote for them no matter what, because you're terrified of Republican
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No, I meant POLICIES, not people.
What policies, what values are you attributin
What are the issues you part ways with progressiv
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Only an Obama flunkie would say something like that.
Frank Caprio is no sociopath, and was the Democratic Party's endorsed candidate when he was elected General Treasurer of Rhode Island in 2006 and received 73% of the vote. Caprio won by a larger margin than any candidate for a contested statewide office on the Rhode Island ballot that year. It was his performanc
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And other opportunis
There are many Republican
"Do you remember when I said, 'Bill Clinton's the best Republican president I've seen in a long time'? Obama's even better." - Alan Greenspan
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People who are Progressiv
Who believe that ONLY Progressiv
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Such as?
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#6 - Continue the Insanity, meaning we keep doing the same thing* over and over again hoping for a different outcome.
[* - Same thing = Continue to refuse to believe our own 'lyin' eyes', keep doing what we've been doing for the past 20 years, continue voting for DLC-contro
Clue: There aren't any grown-ups to save us; we're 'it'.]
What happens when millions are out of work, no jobs, no money, no hope. London, Philadelph
"Quickly Brad, there are thousands of lives at stake... Brad any answer..." - Roy Neary, 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind
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#4 - A Third Party Challenge
We're not limited to voting for just Democrats and Republican
#5 - The "Oh, F I_I C K it, let's get it over with - Vote for Republican
The horse is out of the barn and we should just let the radical right have its way. It's not like Obama and the gutless Dems are going to stop them.KEEP READING
It would be carnage for a few years, people eating other people (though that really only happens in the southern tier of states), old people dying (why are we so eager to keep them alive, anyway?) and cats and dogs living together...
Let it all come crashing down--but let's make sure to kill Soc Sec and Medicaid/Medicare. These Tea Partiers should be allowed to pay what the market will bear, right?
By the way, while our Tea-Party/Real Men (or whatever those guys who wouldn't pay taxes a few years ago are called) friends talk about how they'd like to keep more of their hard earned money and give less to the idiots who "gave us Vietnam and Iraq," perhaps they'd like to pick up the bill for the grading and paving of the road that leads from their home to their office--ca n't be what, more than $60K a year.
While they're at it, maybe they'd like to cut a check for the police and fire people they'd have to employ to protect their home and valuables from damage. If they could get one guy for another $30K, they'd be lucky. Oh, and then there's that water and waste service, if you've got that.
Really, just let these fI_Ickers get what they want.
#3 - Primary Obama
Here are two powerful arguments for challengin
Michael Lerner's very powerful case for primarying Obama.
Ralph Nader's very powerful case for primarying Obama (and no, he's not running again).
Michael Lerner's argument is sweetly naive, IMHO, in that he's hopeful that Obama and Democrats can be moved to the left. I don't think that's true anymore. I think the party and the culture of Washington
Up until a week ago I was saying that, to begin with, no one in the Democratic Party would do it. Due to the hierarchic
Liberals/p
The DLC has gotten too powerful, what with a Democrat in the White House and a Democratic
As I said, that was up until last week. Word has it that a challenge is coming, but it's really not a serious one, not intended for anyone to get the nomination from Obama.
So unless Obama drops out (in which case another corporate tool will take his place), the only legitimate challenges to him will come from outside the Democratic Party (Republica
So what's left?
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There is no "far left" in the Democratic
You'd do much better trying to stop pigeon-hol
I am an old old liberal Democrat, an FDR Democrat, and my positions on issues are in line with the platform of the Democratic Party. It's the politician
The nation ran a whole lot better when liberals were running the government
Real Democratic policies aren't that hard to sell to the American people.
The DLC got into power by refusing to defend the word 'liberal' when RonaldReag
When informed of the issues, most Americans agree with liberal policies. Neither they (nor I) would characteri
If the Bush years taught us anything, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid and relentless in your sales pitch and tactics. It's not that Bush and R0ve were geniuses and knew something that nobody else knew; Bush and Rove were just more ruthless in doing what politician
But Obama only uses those tactics on the Democratic
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Are you aware of any web sites, political organizations, splinter groups, or very smart, brave people who have another candidate to propose for 2012? We need an FDR, not a Hoover representi ng Democrats and the nation in the White House. It's clear Obama is not the person we thought we elected. There are millions of people like us, deeply disappoint ed in him and looking for any reasonable alternate in 2012.
Two paths left: Primarying Obama, with progressiv
A 'Tea Party'-lik
Unless Obama drops out, the only challenges to him will come from outside the Democratic Party (Republica
Michael Lerner's very powerful case for primarying Obama.
Ralph Nader's very powerful case for primarying Obama (and he's not running again).
Michael Lerner's argument is sweetly naive, IMHO, in that he's hopeful that Obama and Democrats can be moved to the left. I don't think that's true anymore. I think the party and the culture of Washington
I never advise people to sit out elections, because if you're not at the table, you're on the menu.
It's what p!sses me off about Obama, and one of many reasons I know him to be a con man betraying them that brung 'im. Because by shutting out liberals, the base, from his administra
You're not limited to voting for just Democrats and Republican
Democratic voters had better start doing it because with each passing day it becomes impossible to turn it all around.
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The Tea Party is an effective nemesis for Obama and helps him and the DLC deliver to their (and Republican
If Obama and DLC-Democr
What Obama also did during the same Town Hall time period? He unleashed federal security forces to Pittsburgh to break up peaceful protests of the G20 meeting, using the new weaponry on dissenters who the 'establish
Obama has no problem quelling dissent or inspiring our better angels when he wants or needs to.
Obama wants to drive a wedge between the base of the Republican Party that controls the Republican Party (far rightwing extremists
The Tea Party serves this end it several ways. Chiefly though, It lets Democrats keep a legislativ
Obama didn't invent this plan, by the way; it's been on the drawing boards of the DLC for years.
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Is there any doubt that a vote for Obama in 2012 is a vote for more caving to the right?
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“One year from now, we have the chance to tell all those corporate lobbyists that the days of them setting the agenda in Washington are over. I have done more to take on lobbyists than any other candidate in this race - and I've won. I don't take a dime of their money, and when I am President, they won't find a job in my White House. Because real change isn't another four years of defending lobbyists who don't represent real Americans - it's standing with working Americans who have seen their jobs disappear and their wages decline and their hope for the future slip further and further away. That's the change we can offer in 2008.
When I am President, I will end the tax giveaways to companies that ship our jobs overseas, and I will put the money in the pockets of working Americans, and seniors, and homeowners who deserve a break. I won't wait ten years to raise the minimum wage - I'll raise it to keep pace every single year. And if American workers are being denied their right to organize when I'm in the White House, I will put on a comfortable pair of shoes and I will walk on that picket line with you as President of the United States."
-Candidate Obama, November 3, 2007 in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
Before the 2010 midterms, Obama broadcast that he would be doing more of the same, more caving by Obama & Democrats, to Republican
Aides say that the president's been spending "a lot of time talking about Obama 2.0," brainstorm ing with administra tion officials about the best way to revamp the strategies & goals of the White House.
And despite the predictions that Democrats may relinquish a large degree of legislatin g power, including perhaps control of the House & even Senate, Obama isn't thinking of the next two years as a period that'll be marked with the same obstructiv e nature from the GOP.
"It may be that regardless of what happens after this election, [Republicans] feel more responsibl e, either because they didn't do as well as they anticipate d, & so the strategy of just saying no to everything & sitting on the sidelines & throwing bombs didn't work for them," Obama says. "Or they did reasonably well, in which case the American people are going to be looking to them to offer serious proposals & work with me in a serious way."
Dick Durbin says Obama's post-election agenda "will have to be limited & focused on the things that are achievable and high priorities for the American people." Tom Daschle says Obama has to reach out more: "The keyword is inclusion. He's got to find ways to be inclusive. "
it's "we" who sold this president down the tube by not supporting him in the 2010 mid-terms.
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