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Jeb Bush Defends Immigration Flip-Flop, Stays Mum On 2016 Run

Tuesday, March 12, 2013


Oh bull, Pelosi clearly said there were WMD's, there never was full cooperation with any inspectors to change that assessment, never.

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In 1998, in order to get weapons inspections back on track, which it did.  

UN weapons inspectors did NOT support military intervention in 2003, and obviously there WAS full compliance because there were no WMDs!

What Gore had to say or what those who voted to give BushCheney the AUMF believed was all based on FALSE intel (remember 'Curveball'?) and FORGED evidence.  We know from Bush biographer Mickey Herskowitz that Bush wanted to invade Iraq two years before 9/11 and planned to do it if he got into the Oval Office.  Nothing about Al Qaeda in Iraq then.  Let's also get the minutes from Cheney's energy task force meetings, where he carved up Iraq's oil fields.

The American people were duped and left holding this $3 trillion bag, and you're still looking to excuse BushCheney?  You're either on their payroll or too dvmb to think for yourself.  Why on earth would you or anyone who was on the level even try to prevent a legitimate investigation?
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Jeb Bush Defends Immigration Flip-Flop, Stays Mum On 2016 Run


You are blind to the fact that the "evidence" BushCheney proffered as their basis for taking the US to war was forged and/or manufactured.  Whether it was the Niger documents or the DowningStreet memo or the CIA's faking photographs of UAVs, there was/is plenty of evidence that *SOMEBODY* wanted the US to bomb Iraq into oblivion, and given how it was the BushCheney administration driving the stories, pressing Congress for authorization, representing the "evidence" as legitimate, if you don't believe that BushCheney lied then why aren't you calling for an investigation as to who else might have been behind all of it?
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Actor Ed Begley Jr.: Obama 'Should Die In His Boots' In Fight Against Climate Change (VIDEO)


The week before and the week after the healthcare bill passed in the Senate was the one and only time a public option had any chance of happening until another generation passes.

A group of senators had mobilized behind it since the bill had to be passed through reconcilia­tion anyway, and there was no way that Democrats weren't going to get enough of its members to vote against it just because it had a public option in it.

Obama nixxed it.

The excuse was that if the Senate did that, the bill would have to go back to the House for a vote and "There's no time!"

After the (allegedly­) pro-public option senators accepted that excuse & stood down, 2 flaws were discovered with the bill requiring it's return to the House anyway. It was all done in the dead of night, before anyone could say, "As long as you have to send it back anyway, how about slipping in a public option?"  

Obama's not only not for any kind of universal public health care, he'll do everything within his power to prevent it as long as he's in the White House. Because that was the deal that he made.  Those who believe that Obama's healthcare legislatio­n is "increment­al change", it institutio­nalizes the insurance industry as the gatekeeper­s to medical treatment (requiring having a job, too), which is something that everybody wanted to end.  And there never will be a public option or any kind of affordable­, quality medical care for all as long as Obama and DLC-contro­lled Democrats are in office: "There Won't Be Any Public Option--Ob­ama Never Was For It".  Watch it and weep.

FYI - There's rarely a majority in Congress to pass anything at all until a campaign has been mounted to sell it.  And when a president and his political party are swept into power to deliver CHANGE across the board, he enters office with PLATINUM political capital.  

We already would have had a public option had it not been for Obama, with Pelosi's and Reid's compliance­.  We actually would have already had real healthcare reform legislatio­n (single payer universal healthcare­), but Obama had to get it off the table before negotiatio­ns ever began.  Because if affordable­, quality medical care for everyone is the goal, everything else pales next to single payer.  And that's why Obama had to get it off the table.
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Actor Ed Begley Jr.: Obama 'Should Die In His Boots' In Fight Against Climate Change (VIDEO)


It was very hard to get the AHCA through, and the promises made at the time, from both the President, AND the Democrats, were for further tweaking, going forward.


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ACA passed through reconciliation.  All it took to get ACA through was 50 +Biden.  

What was hard was getting ACA passed and convincing Democratic voters that ACA was the reform that they thought they would get (affordable quality medical treatment for everyone) when they put Obama and Democrats into power.  ACA doesn't do any of those things.  Insurance is NOT medical treatment.
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Actor Ed Begley Jr.: Obama 'Should Die In His Boots' In Fight Against Climate Change (VIDEO)


The President wanted the single payer system.  You have to crawl before yu can walk.  It was very hard to get the AHCA through, and the promises made at the time, from both the President, AND the Democrats, were for further tweaking, going forward.When you are being accused of being a socialist dictator, it makes sense to take in all of the perripheral opinions, and give everyone some input.

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Obama never wanted a public option or single payer.  But to get both off the table, he had to do it in stages.  Single payer first, with big talk about "I will not sign any legislation that doesn't include a robust public option".  That had to happen right off the bat, before negotiations even began.  To make sure that there wouldn't be a public option in any final legislatio­n (and that there really wouldn't be any reform of the system, that the insurance and pharmaceut­ical industries would continue to be able to make massive profits), single payer had to be taken off the table before negotiatio­ns ever began.   Out of sight, out of mind. And that's exactly what Obama did.

Once that happened, then a public option was used as a bargaining chip, to be given up, and we know that from several sources, including Tom Daschle and Richard Kirsch.

A caller on CSpan not long ago asked Richard Wolffe, who was out plugging his latest book written from his special access to the Obama White House, if we're ever going to get a public option to keep costs down.

Wolffe makes it clear that Obama and the DLC-contro­lled Democrats never had any intention of going with a public option or expanding public healthcare in any way.  There's no way to get to single payer from ACA.  If you believe otherwise, lay it out for us.
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