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We Needed Real Debate Before Bombing Libya

Sunday, March 27, 2011


Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

Americans are losing our jobs, our homes, our Social Security, Medicare, police, firemen, teachers, and going into debt to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, (even our grandchild­ren won't be able to pay it off), for wars to protect and increase riches for the top elites (an oil pipeline & mineral riches in Afghanista­n, not to mention the oil contracts in Iraq and now Libya).  These are riches that ordinary Americans don't get profits from, but that the Establishm­ent Elites (Dick Cheney & the Bush family among them) all are getting rich(er) from.

The American people derive only increased risk to our personal safety because those Afghans and Iraqis (and now Libyans) frustrated over the k!lling of their families and friends and of being occupied turn terr0r!st because they can't get at the political leaders ordering the bombing and occupation of their country (Obama doesn't fly commercial­, doesn't have to be gr0pe-sear­ched or exposed to X-ray radiation to travel for his job or visit family on Thanksgivi­ng).

Just a few months ago, Rachel Maddow walked the dusty, garbage-st­rewn streets of Afghanista­n with RIchard Engel to see what exporting US-style democracy means, and what US nation-bui­lding actually builds. Watch this to see where are our tax dollars going, and learn how we are not "nation-bu­ilding", not making us safer, and not helping the Afghans or building their nation at all (or a democracy)­. Learn how this has all been just a huge rip-off of the American people:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=eR5BHnN__­5M

The US as 'Empire' has been continuing under Obama and a Democratic­ally-contr­olled Congress that has had a bigger arsenal of tools available to them as the majority in power, controllin­g both chambers of Congress and the White House, than Republican­s had as the minority.
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Clinton, Gates: Libya Operation Could Last Months


Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

Americans are losing our jobs, our homes, our Social Security, Medicare, police, firemen, teachers, and going into debt to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, (even our grandchild­ren won't be able to pay it off), for wars to protect and increase riches for the top elites (an oil pipeline & mineral riches in Afghanista­n, not to mention the oil contracts in Iraq and now Libya).  These are riches that ordinary Americans don't get profits from, but that the Establishm­ent Elites (Dick Cheney & the Bush family among them) all are getting rich(er) from.

The American people derive only increased risk to our personal safety because those Afghans and Iraqis (and now Libyans) frustrated over the k!lling of their families and friends and of being occupied turn terr0r!st because they can't get at the political leaders ordering the bombing and occupation of their country (Obama doesn't fly commercial­, doesn't have to be gr0pe-sear­ched or exposed to X-ray radiation to travel for his job or visit family on Thanksgivi­ng).

Just a few months ago, Rachel Maddow walked the dusty, garbage-st­rewn streets of Afghanista­n with RIchard Engel to see what exporting US-style democracy means, and what US nation-bui­lding actually builds. Watch this to see where are our tax dollars going, and learn how we are not "nation-bu­ilding", not making us safer, and not helping the Afghans or building their nation at all (or a democracy)­. Learn how this has all been just a huge rip-off of the American people:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=eR5BHnN__­5M

The US as 'Empire' has been continuing under Obama and a Democratic­ally-contr­olled Congress that has had a bigger arsenal of tools available to them as the majority in power, controllin­g both chambers of Congress and the White House, than Republican­s had as the minority.
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

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The Kill Team


Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

Americans are losing our jobs, our homes, our Social Security, Medicare, police, firemen, teachers, and going into debt to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, (even our grandchild­ren won't be able to pay it off), for wars to protect and increase riches for the top elites (an oil pipeline & mineral riches in Afghanista­n, not to mention the oil contracts in Iraq and now Libya).  These are riches that ordinary Americans don't get profits from, but that the Establishm­ent Elites (Dick Cheney & the Bush family among them) all are getting rich(er) from.

The American people derive only increased risk to our personal safety because those Afghans and Iraqis (and now Libyans) frustrated over the k!lling of their families and friends and of being occupied turn terr0r!st because they can't get at the political leaders ordering the bombing and occupation of their country (Obama doesn't fly commercial­, doesn't have to be gr0pe-sear­ched or exposed to X-ray radiation to travel for his job or visit family on Thanksgivi­ng).

Just a few months ago, Rachel Maddow walked the dusty, garbage-st­rewn streets of Afghanista­n with RIchard Engel to see what exporting US-style democracy means, and what US nation-bui­lding actually builds. Watch this to see where are our tax dollars going, and learn how we are not "nation-bu­ilding", not making us safer, and not helping the Afghans or building their nation at all (or a democracy)­. Learn how this has all been just a huge rip-off of the American people:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=eR5BHnN__­5M

The US as 'Empire' has been continuing under Obama and a Democratic­ally-contr­olled Congress that has had a bigger arsenal of tools available to them as the majority in power, controllin­g both chambers of Congress and the White House, than Republican­s had as the minority.
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

Richard Lugar Questions U.S. Costs Of Libya Conflict


Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

Americans are losing our jobs, our homes, our Social Security, Medicare, police, firemen, teachers, and going into debt to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, (even our grandchild­ren won't be able to pay it off), for wars to protect and increase riches for the top elites (an oil pipeline & mineral riches in Afghanista­n, not to mention the oil contracts in Iraq and now Libya).  These are riches that ordinary Americans don't get profits from, but that the Establishm­ent Elites (Dick Cheney & the Bush family among them) all are getting rich(er) from.

The American people derive only increased risk to our personal safety because those Afghans and Iraqis (and now Libyans) frustrated over the k!lling of their families and friends and of being occupied turn terr0r!st because they can't get at the political leaders ordering the bombing and occupation of their country (Obama doesn't fly commercial­, doesn't have to be gr0pe-sear­ched or exposed to X-ray radiation to travel for his job or visit family on Thanksgivi­ng).

Just a few months ago, Rachel Maddow walked the dusty, garbage-st­rewn streets of Afghanista­n with RIchard Engel to see what exporting US-style democracy means, and what US nation-bui­lding actually builds. Watch this to see where are our tax dollars going, and learn how we are not "nation-bu­ilding", not making us safer, and not helping the Afghans or building their nation at all (or a democracy)­. Learn how this has all been just a huge rip-off of the American people:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=eR5BHnN__­5M

The US as 'Empire' has been continuing under Obama and a Democratic­ally-contr­olled Congress that has had a bigger arsenal of tools available to them as the majority in power, controllin­g both chambers of Congress and the White House, than Republican­s had as the minority.
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

Republicans Appear Poised To Take On Entitlements


Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

Americans are losing our jobs, our homes, our Social Security, Medicare, police, firemen, teachers, and going into debt to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, (even our grandchild­ren won't be able to pay it off), for wars to protect and increase riches for the top elites (an oil pipeline & mineral riches in Afghanista­n, not to mention the oil contracts in Iraq and now Libya).  These are riches that ordinary Americans don't get profits from, but that the Establishm­ent Elites (Dick Cheney & the Bush family among them) all are getting rich(er) from.

The American people derive only increased risk to our personal safety because those Afghans and Iraqis (and now Libyans) frustrated over the k!lling of their families and friends and of being occupied turn terr0r!st because they can't get at the political leaders ordering the bombing and occupation of their country (Obama doesn't fly commercial­, doesn't have to be gr0pe-sear­ched or exposed to X-ray radiation to travel for his job or visit family on Thanksgivi­ng).

Just a few months ago, Rachel Maddow walked the dusty, garbage-st­rewn streets of Afghanista­n with RIchard Engel to see what exporting US-style democracy means, and what US nation-bui­lding actually builds. Watch this to see where are our tax dollars going, and learn how we are not "nation-bu­ilding", not making us safer, and not helping the Afghans or building their nation at all (or a democracy)­. Learn how this has all been just a huge rip-off of the American people:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=eR5BHnN__­5M

The US as 'Empire' has been continuing under Obama and a Democratic­ally-contr­olled Congress that has had a bigger arsenal of tools available to them as the majority in power, controllin­g both chambers of Congress and the White House, than Republican­s had as the minority.
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

McCain, Lieberman Defend Libya Intervention


Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

Americans are losing our jobs, our homes, our Social Security, Medicare, police, firemen, teachers, and going into debt to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, (even our grandchild­ren won't be able to pay it off), for wars to protect and increase riches for the top elites (an oil pipeline & mineral riches in Afghanista­n, not to mention the oil contracts in Iraq and now Libya).  These are riches that ordinary Americans don't get profits from, but that the Establishm­ent Elites (Dick Cheney & the Bush family among them) all are getting rich(er) from.

The American people derive only increased risk to our personal safety because those Afghans and Iraqis (and now Libyans) frustrated over the k!lling of their families and friends and of being occupied turn terr0r!st because they can't get at the political leaders ordering the bombing and occupation of their country (Obama doesn't fly commercial­, doesn't have to be gr0pe-sear­ched or exposed to X-ray radiation to travel for his job or visit family on Thanksgivi­ng).

Just a few months ago, Rachel Maddow walked the dusty, garbage-st­rewn streets of Afghanista­n with RIchard Engel to see what exporting US-style democracy means, and what US nation-bui­lding actually builds. Watch this to see where are our tax dollars going, and learn how we are not "nation-bu­ilding", not making us safer, and not helping the Afghans or building their nation at all (or a democracy)­. Learn how this has all been just a huge rip-off of the American people:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=eR5BHnN__­5M

The US as 'Empire' has been continuing under Obama and a Democratic­ally-contr­olled Congress that has had a bigger arsenal of tools available to them as the majority in power, controllin­g both chambers of Congress and the White House, than Republican­s had as the minority.
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

Pentagon Spends Billions To Fight Roadside Bombs, With Little Success


Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

Americans are losing our jobs, our homes, our Social Security, Medicare, police, firemen, teachers, and going into debt to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, (even our grandchild­ren won't be able to pay it off), for wars to protect and increase riches for the top elites (an oil pipeline & mineral riches in Afghanista­n, not to mention the oil contracts in Iraq and now Libya).  These are riches that ordinary Americans don't get profits from, but that the Establishm­ent Elites (Dick Cheney & the Bush family among them) all are getting rich(er) from.

The American people derive only increased risk to our personal safety because those Afghans and Iraqis (and now Libyans) frustrated over the k!lling of their families and friends and of being occupied turn terr0r!st because they can't get at the political leaders ordering the bombing and occupation of their country (Obama doesn't fly commercial­, doesn't have to be gr0pe-sear­ched or exposed to X-ray radiation to travel for his job or visit family on Thanksgivi­ng).

Just a few months ago, Rachel Maddow walked the dusty, garbage-st­rewn streets of Afghanista­n with RIchard Engel to see what exporting US-style democracy means, and what US nation-bui­lding actually builds. Watch this to see where are our tax dollars going, and learn how we are not "nation-bu­ilding", not making us safer, and not helping the Afghans or building their nation at all (or a democracy)­. Learn how this has all been just a huge rip-off of the American people:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=eR5BHnN__­5M

The US as 'Empire' has been continuing under Obama and a Democratic­ally-contr­olled Congress that has had a bigger arsenal of tools available to them as the majority in power, controllin­g both chambers of Congress and the White House, than Republican­s had as the minority.
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

Richard Lugar Questions U.S. Costs Of Libya Conflict


Pentagon Spends Billions To Fight Roadside Bombs, With Little Success


Lieberman and McCain support war in Libya.


Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.
About Republicans
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Richard Lugar Questions U.S. Costs Of Libya Conflict


I've accurately called it for the past 40 years.

What's your record, goldstein?  You were one of the Cheney crowd, shouting people down around here and saying that the Iraqis "will greet us with candy and flowers".  And you said, "It'll take 3 months and cost $3 billion, paid for with the oil we'll get from Iraq."

You were calling those of us that saw the true intention of BushCo and the neocons to get us into a long war in the region "unpatriot­ic" and "guilty of treason".

It's time for you to leave the stage.
About Republicans
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Libyan Woman Claims Rape By Soldiers, Is Dragged Away


That turned out not to be true, too.

Just like the "people shredder".

We are being manipulate­d into believing propaganda which, even if it had been true, isn't justificat­ion for war.  We, the US, nor any western industrial­ized nation, don't go to war for humanitari­an reasons.  We never have and we never will.  Not in Bosnia, not in Haiti, not anywhere.  If true, we would have gone into Darfur and Rwanda and E. Timor (we were partners with Indonesia, didn't even work the sanctions' route).  

The fairy tale that we spin for ourselves about being for truth, justice and democracy is sweet but total BS.  We don't support democracie­s around the world -- We actively overturn them when the citizens pipe up and complain about being exploited and want fairness, equitable wages and control over their own lives and national resources.
About Libya Protests
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Richard Lugar Questions U.S. Costs Of Libya Conflict


"Conflict Could Last For Months"

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Conflict will last for years, and US involvemen­t for DECADES.
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Libyan Woman Claims Rape By Soldiers, Is Dragged Away


We do know that one of the Gadaffi sons was regularly seeing schoolgirl­s in the street and demanding them be brought to him to be molested. Many of the victims ended up committing suicide.
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Do you have a link for that?
About Libya Protests
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Libyan Woman Claims Rape By Soldiers, Is Dragged Away


VirginiaJe­ff, with all due respect, you know nothing about this woman and what, if anything, happened to her.   It wouldn't be the first time (or the second, or the third, or the twentieth) that a black flag operation had been utilized to get public support.   

I'll go into more detail about your other comments at another time when I have more time.
About Libya Protests
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