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Obama's Religion: Christianity 101 For The Willfully Ignorant

Thursday, August 26, 2010


Obama (nor RahmEmanuel) has NEVER gone after the Republican leadership in Congress -- Not McConnell, not Boehner, not Cantor, nor any other Republican politician. He's trying to recruit them into the DemocraticParty.



Last year, Obama disappeared from the healthcare debate as the Tea Party grew & bullied at Town Halls. The Tea Party has always been a myth, & a myth that Obama & Rahm Emanuel have helped to create. In all of the US, there are 600 registered members of the Tea Party.



What Obama's doing is a variation of the old Bush-R0ve 'fear' tactic. Only instead of terr0rists with kn!ves between their teeth climbing over border walls between Mexico & Arizona/Texas/California, it's gvn-toting John Birchers at Town Hall meetings.



All of last summer, as they brought gvns to the Town Halls, & members of Congress were canceling Town Halls, did Obama take charge, send out federal marshals to protect the democratic process? Did Obama hit the air waves, saying, "There will be gathering in the public square to do what we do in America: Debate and discuss the issues facing us!"?



No.



What Obama did instead during the same time period was unleash federal security forces to Pittsburgh to break up peaceful protests of the G20 meeting. Tested out the new weaponry - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2009/sep/25/sonic-cannon-g20-pittsburgh
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Yes, Obama and the DLC are courting Republican politicians and their supporters.



I (and others) have been writing about the DLC and its plan to move the Democratic Party to the right for about 20 of them. What we're talking about is not a great secret; The DLC has said it itself, that it wants to move the Democratic Party to the right in order to be able to govern "from the center, for 100 years". You might want to expand your research to studying the DLC, its history, members, and plans for the future.



I'm also not the only one who has written about Obama & RahmEmanuel trying to make Limbaugh & Palin the face of the Republican Party instead of the actual elected Republican politicians who are running the RepublicanParty, although I may have been among the first, if not the first. Here's Carville and Begala on the subject - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19596.html



No sooner did Obama get into office than he & Emanuel went after two people who have no official connection to the Republican Party -- Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ02WUmh-24



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I didn't give you a spam link, you id-jit; I gave you a link with a space within it (because HP holds and scrubs links back to its own articles), told you to take the space out, and you couldn't even follow that instruction.



You're not the sharpest kn!fe in the drawer, booboo.



Want to try it again?:



Start reading (take the space out between the 'f's). Over 14,000 comments with links to support them.



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I am an old liberal Democrat who, if polled as to what I believe Obama is, would say that I don't know what Obama is. I suspect he's an atheist (as am I), but what I do know is that he's an opportunist who does just what he needs to do and no more to advance his own personal objectives and fortunes.



Obama brought this controversy on himself. It never would have gotten any traction had he been doing what he had been doing in the years leading up to his run for the presidency, which was belonging to a Christian church and attending it somewhat regularly. Once it had served its purpose (getting him into the White House), he had no further need for it.



That's a readily visible pattern with Obama. The closer he got to the nomination and then the White House itself, the more liberal rhetoric he dropped. And once in the OvalOffice, he's broken most of his promises, done a 180-degree turn on policy, & totally shut the door to liberals & progressives, courting instead the right-of-center Independents and Republicans.



If anyone seriously believes that Obama is an observant Christian & believes the White House's argument that the proof is that he gets texted with Biblical passages daily, it begs the question, "What about his family? His wife and children?" What couple proclaiming to be Christian raising young children don't attend church regularly and have those children involved in church activities?
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I am an old, old liberal Democrat, which you would've known had you read my entire comment or any of the more than 14,000 other comments I've written here.



Stop playing word games; St. Andrews Bay/Alligator Point/Grand Lagoon is NOT in the GulfOfMexico:



http://maps.google.com/maps?q=bay+point+marriott+panama+city&hl=en&cd=1&ei=QFloTKrLGZjszASlu_DrCw&sll=30.148989,-85.693696&sspn=0.023577,0.080377&ie=UTF8&view=map&cid=2528839941766035549&ved=0CIcBEKUG&hq=bay+point+marriott+panama+city&hnear=&ll=30.140971,-85.723228&spn=0.037039,0.077162&t=h&z=14



AlligatorPoint is not the GulfOfMexico. It’s technically an inland area in a protected lagoon/bay/inlet called “St. AndrewsBay”. St.Andrews Bay/AlligatorPoint is well known to be “cleaner” than the GulfOfMexico due to its physical barriers, fresher water inlets, & the fact that they’ve got a lot of environmental protection, unlike the GulfOfMexico. The specific area where Obama and his daughter swam has been protected since 1972 & is called the St. AndrewsAquaticPreserve.



Relatively clear water is one of the characteristic features of St. AndrewsAquaticPreserve, which is due to several factors: Its spring-fed tributaries, rivers empty into it, the water table is high, as well as low amounts of silty clay in the local soils & the filtering effect of the marshes &seagrasses.



http://www.dep.state.fl.us/coastal/sites/standrews/



That photograph, released by the WhiteHouse (no one in the media was alerted until afterswards), will go down in history as one of the most dishonest, deceptive acts of the ObamaAdministration.
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Start reading (take the space out between the 'f's). Over 14,000 comments with links to support them.



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How ethical is this?



The photo the other day of Obama & his daughter swimming "in the Gulf of Mexico" so that people would travel to the Gulf states to spend their vacation dollars there. Only it wasn't the Gulf of Mexico. But he had no problem lying through his teeth with that charade, assuring People that they shouldn't have any concerns about swimming in the waters of the Gulf coast states ("Look, I'm even putting my own kid in the Gulf water -- How dangerous could it be?"). HE USED HIS OWN DAUGHTER IN THIS SHAM! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/president-goes-for-a-swim-in-the-gulf-ndash-or-does-he-2053567.html



It showed he has no problem Iying through his teeth to the American people, on matters of our lives, our health, and our de@th. The man's a double-talk con artist, urging people to swim in the water, eat the seafood without adequate testing!



Obama's handling of everything, not just the blowout in the Gulf, has been scandalous. Not only a continuation of Bush-Cheney policies, but he's gone Bush-Cheney even better.
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Obama's Religion: Christianity 101 For The Willfully Ignorant


I am an old liberal Democrat who, if polled as to what I believe Obama is, would say that I don't know what Obama is. I suspect he's an atheist (as am I), but what I know is that he's an opportunist who does just what he needs to do and no more to advance his own personal objectives and fortunes.



Obama brought this controversy on himself. It never would have gotten any traction had he been doing what he had been doing in the years leading up to his run for the presidency, belonging to a Christian church and attending it somewhat regularly. Once it had served its purpose (getting him into the White House), he had no further need for it.



That's a readily visible pattern with Obama. The closer he got to the nomination and then the White House itself, the more liberal rhetoric he dropped. And once in the Oval Office, he's totally shut that door to liberals and progressives, courting instead the right-of-center Independents and Republicans.



If anyone seriously believes that Obama is an observant Christian and believes the White House's argument that the proof is that he gets texted with Biblical passages daily, it begs the question, "What about his family? His wife and children?" What couple proclaiming to be Christian raising young children don't attend church regularly and have those children involved in church activities?
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This is what comes of slashing public education monies and trying to privatize schools.



The Corporatocracy requires an ig.nor.ant citizenry in order to control it. Corporations have gamed our political system so effectively that the two-party system competes to serve corporate interests which Corporations defend as, "What's good for GM (corporations) is good for America (We the People)". Both parties, both the DLC Democrats who control the Democratic Party and Republicans, are corporate t00Is.



At the top of Big Businesses' shopping lists to Democrats & Republicans is "Give us more money. And if you can't do that, if you can't fool the average American voter into going along with that, then let us be able to rake it in as we've been doing."



That's what Obama's "Healthcare Reform" legislation was all about. Republicans had their turn at delivering to Big Insurance & PhRma in 2003 with the Medicare Reform Act. After that, corporations shifted their donations to the Democrats.



When politicians have had the chance to reform campaign financing (all publicly financed) and elections, they've refused and made it more 'exclusive' (harder for third party/independent challengers), controlled by corporate media and accessible by only those with huge bankrolls.
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I'm an old, OLD, liberal Democrat who saw this coming 40 years ago. You really have no idea how it pains me to see Obama and Democrats betray the People who put them into power, and squander the opportunities the People gave them to repair the damage done by Republicans and Conservatives these past decades.



You want a name, someone to challenge Obama for the Democratic nomination in 2012?



You. Me. All of us. That's right, take a good long look at yourself in the mirror. We are the ones who we have been waiting for. We have to take charge of this situation, and that means getting off our @$ses, taking control of the Democratic Party (locally and nationally), tossing the DLC out and putting real Democrats into power. It means real grass roots activism, and not responding to email orders of David Axelrod/David Plouffe/Rahm Emanuel/DLC.



If it's not too late already.
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OK, maybe not. I certainly can't accuse you of not accepting my implicit challenge to respond. Is there anyone in particular you would like to see challenge Obama for the Democratic Presidential nomination in 2012? Al Franken? Alan Grayson? Elizabeth Warren? Or are you a third party kind of guy(gal?)

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Helloooooooooooooo?!! Earth calling votingthistime.



Why would you want to accuse me of not accepting your implicit challenge to respond? Your admission of wanting to challenge me about anything is an admission that you haven't any sincere desire or intent to seriously discuss the mess we're in; you just want to argue.



If it wasn't obvious before, it sure is now that if I were to take your bait & give you a name for 2012, you would see that as a strawman to take down.



You don't want names or solutions (you aren't even capable of participating in that discussion); you just want to argue.



Until you can admit the situation as it exists now, until you can accept that Obama is not the one, but only more of the same, there is no point in jumping the horse.



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Obama's Hasn't Ended The Iraq War -- Not With 56,000 Combat Troops (ALL Troops Are Combat Trained & Ready) Remaining In Iraq. Bush's Neocon Architect For Iraq's Surge Is Now Part Of Obama's Afghanistan Team - http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/082010.html



The photo the other day of Obama & his daughter swimming "in the Gulf of Mexico" so that people would travel to the Gulf states to spend their vacation dollars there. Only it wasn't the Gulf of Mexico. But he had no problem lying through his teeth with that charade, assuring People that they shouldn't have any concerns about swimming in the waters of the Gulf coast states ("Look, I'm even putting my own kid in the Gulf water -- How dangerous could it be?"). HE USED HIS OWN DAUGHTER IN THIS SHAM! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/president-goes-for-a-swim-in-the-gulf-ndash-or-does-he-2053567.html



That really was the last straw. The man has no character; he is beneath contempt. It showed just how corrupt he is, how he has no problem Iying through his teeth to the American people, on matters of our lives, our health, and our de@th.



Obama's handling of the situation in the Gulf is scandalous on every aspect of it.
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ACLU chief 'disgusted' with Obama



The top official at the American Civil Liberties Union seems to be losing patience with President Barack Obama and his administration.



Speaking at a conference of liberal activists Wednesday morning, ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero didn't mince his words about the administration's handling of civil liberties issues.



http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0610/ACLU_chief_disgusted_with_Obama.html
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Obama administration defends its assassination program



In the wake of Leon Panetta's public defense of the targeting of American citizens suspected (but never charged or convicted) of terrorism, Obama officials are now apparently going around the country &, with chest-beating rhetoric, overtly defending their right to target Americans for assassination with no due process of any kind - http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=11055975



http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/07/01/assassinations



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Doctors Who Aid Torture (And Obama Who Helps Cover It Up)



The report from the physicians’ group does not prove its case beyond doubt — how could it when so much is still hidden? — but it rightly calls on the White House & Congress to investigate the potentially illegal human experimentation and whether those who authorized or conducted it should be punished. Those are just two of the many unresolved issues from the Bush administration that President Obama and Congressional leaders have swept under the carpet.



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In Warrantless Wiretapping Case, Obama DOJ's New Arguments Are Worse Than Bush's



Friday evening, in a motion to dismiss Jewel v. NSA, EFF's litigation against the National Security Agency for the warrantless wiretapping of countless Americans, the Obama Administration made two deeply troubling arguments.



First, they argued, exactly as the Bush Administration did on countless occasions, that the state secrets privilege requires the court to dismiss the issue out of hand. They argue that simply allowing the case to continue "would cause exceptionally grave harm to national security." As in the past, this is a blatant ploy to dismiss the litigation without allowing the courts to consider the evidence.



It's an especially disappointing argument to hear from the Obama Administration. As a candidate, Senator Obama lamented that the Bush Administration "invoked a legal tool known as the 'state secrets' privilege more than any other previous administration to get cases thrown out of civil court." He was right then, and we're dismayed that he and his team seem to have forgotten.



Sad as that is, it's the DoJ's second argument that is the most pernicious. The DOJ claims that the U.S. Government is completely immune from litigation for illegal spying — that the Government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal privacy statutes.



http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush
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Examples of Obama continuing Bush's policies:



Expert Consensus: Obama Mimics Bush On State Secrets



Is the Obama administration mimicking its predecessor on issues of secrecy and the war on terror?



During the presidential campaign, Obama criticized Bush for being too quick to invoke the state secrets claim. But last Friday, his Justice Department filed a motion in a warrantless wiretapping lawsuit, brought by the digital-rights group EFF. And the Obama-ites took a page out of the Bush DOJ's playbook by demanding that the suit, Jewel v. NSA, be dismissed entirely under the state secrets privilege, arguing that allowing it go forward would jeopardize national security.



Coming on the heels of the two other recent cases in which the new administration has asserted the state secrets privilege, the motion sparked outrage among civil libertarians and many progressive commentators.



http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/expert_consensus_obama_aping_bush_on_state_secrets.php?ref=fp1



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Obama's a fraud, no rhetoric about it.



How do you think "he's a lot better than his predecessor"? Because you think he's got a more winning personality? He has continued just about all of the Bush-Cheney policies, and has even gone Bush and Cheney one better on several fronts. Anybody defending Obama is either a paid political operative or just too ig.no.rant to be taken seriously by anyone. You are your own (and all of our) worst enemy, chum.



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