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Is it Worse to Be a Racist or a Rapist? What Gibson, Brown and Polanski Teach Us

Tuesday, July 13, 2010

Wrong answer.



These are both legal terms, with specific definitions. And you might want to think this through very carefully before you cloud the issues in this case and the language describing these acts.
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Steny Hoyer: Democrats Will Run Against Bush's Record In 2010 And Win


You don't refuse to investigate and prosecute Bush-Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Feith, Addington, Bybee, Yoo, et al, continue just about all of their policies, and then get to run against their records and legacy.
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Congratulations, Polanski-Defenders -- Now the Child-Rapist Walks Free!

It's bad enough that HuffPo published this article, with a salacious (and libelous) headline, but to edit reaction by censoring comments adds insult to the injury.



How is the elimination of comments that express opinions & ideas with which the moderators may not agree defendable by a publisher who criticizes the media regularly for not expressing ideas that conform with her beliefs?
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Congratulations, Polanski-Defenders -- Now the Child-Rapist Walks Free!

That would be a tragedy for in America, to have our criminal justice system so corrupted that comments like yours, beliefs such as yours, accepted and acceptable.



Samantha Geimer's father wouldn't have. He didn't want Polanski in prison, and supported the plea deal. In fact, the father (a lawyer) lobbied for the deal.



I'm giving you the benefit of doubt, that you really know nothing about this case or the parties involved.
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Is it Worse to Be a Racist or a Rapist? What Gibson, Brown and Polanski Teach Us

Do you think that statutory rape and forcible rape are the same?
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Is it Worse to Be a Racist or a Rapist? What Gibson, Brown and Polanski Teach Us

Do you think Polanski mashed up drugs, slipped them into alcohol and poured it down her throat?



What do you think you know about this case?
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Is it Worse to Be a Racist or a Rapist? What Gibson, Brown and Polanski Teach Us

When Mel Gibson's girlfriend wasn't taping, Gibson beat her up, knocked out her teeth. He did that while she was holding their baby (not that that should make any difference, that it would be any more acceptable if she hadn't been holding a baby).



If you think that "egging on" justifies physical assault, or that you have to demon!ze a woman for taping a man trying to get custody of your child & whose public persona is Dr. Jekyll, but in private is Mr. Hyde, your identifying with Mel Gibson is troubling. Why would you defend him if you're not seeing those same v!olent, abusive tendencies in yourself and want to head off the public's acceptance of women taping their batterers' real selves at home?



You had better get used to living your whole life observed. Thanks to the government's overreach and overreaction after nine-eleven, surveillance cameras are just about everywhere.
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Is it Worse to Be a Racist or a Rapist? What Gibson, Brown and Polanski Teach Us

When MelGibson was arrested for drunk driving a couple of years ago & the rac!st, sex!st epithets he spoke first came to light, his excuse was that he was raised by a violent rac!st HoIocaust-denier father, is t0rtured by that father-son relationship, & those words were "not like Mel", but rather utterances planted or programmed into him as a child by his father & coming out of him in his drunk condition much like a Tourette's patient cursing.



JuliaRoberts came forward to defend him, just as WhoopiGoldberg is defending him now, even though that wasn't the first time Gibson had an out-of-character 'slip of the tongue'. In 1992:



==Heartthrob actor Mel Gibson, asked by one of Spain’s leading magazines what he thinks of homosexuals, launched into a tirade against gay men.



“They take it up the a$$,” Gibson told El Pais as he got out of his chair, bent over & pointed to his butt. “This is only for taking a sh!t,” he said.



Reminded by the interviewer (KimCastellano) that he worked with gays while studying at the SchoolOfDramaticArts, Gibson added: “They were good people, kind, I like them. But their thing is not my thing.”



Castellano said, “But you were obsessed with the thought that if you were an actor, people would confuse you with one of them.”



“Yes,” Gibson admitted, “but with this look, who’s going to think I’m gay? It'd be hard to take me for someone like that.”==



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Congratulations, Polanski-Defenders -- Now the Child-Rapist Walks Free!

Did Polanski do anything to you, Johann Hari?



The anger and vitriole I'm reading in this article and these comments is way out of proportion to this situation. Most of the people expressing extreme emotions here (including the author of the article) don't have the facts straight about this case. They're feeding upon the angry hearsay of other commenters, who seem to be victims themselves of abuse and are displacing onto Polanski.



The basis for our criminal justice system is that the accused be able to get a fair trial. Whatever happened to Johann Hari (or any of the commenters wanting a pound of flesh from Polanski), it has nothing to do with the Polanski case, interferes with a fair resolution of the case and is the reason the case is still pending with Polanski as a fugitive.



What happened to Samantha Geimer happened to Samantha Geimer, and not to you. For all those who have been s3xually assaulted, it wasn't by Roman Polanski. Whatever happens to him, it's not going to bring you peace or heal your pain.
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Is it Worse to Be a Racist or a Rapist? What Gibson, Brown and Polanski Teach Us

Polanski has defended his behavior, saying that it is only in puritanical America where such things are condemned and that it is quite acceptable in France.



"In our society you have to be a 17 year old before it is not considered under age."

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Not that it matters what other countries do, but since you brought it up, up until very recently arranged marriages in France with "children" were legal.



In other cultures inside the US, it's was and is legal to marry what you're calling "children".



In New Hampshire, girls can get married at 13 years old.



In Kansas and Mississippi, you can get married at 15.



In Georgia, you can get married at 16. In 1977, it was 13.



http://books.google.com/books?id=JR4X1DQqCBQC&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=%22marriage+age%22+%222005%22+%22france%22&source=bl&ots=_s-RJbWC5g&sig=TZlYFvOgEeuhV7g7QSr-Ljel9zw&hl=en&ei=0-XGSvqLDJOEswPc3tChBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4#v=onepage&q=%22marriage%20age%22%20%222005%22%20%22france%22&f=false



http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article-1G1-133755169/sidelights-france-senate-raises.html



http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/04/historical-variation-in-age-at-first-marriage.php



http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/datasets?tag=marriage&sort=rating
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Congratulations, Polanski-Defenders -- Now the Child-Rapist Walks Free!

Polanski has defended his behavior, saying that it is only in puritanical America where such things are condemned and that it is quite acceptable in France.



"In our society you have to be a 17 year old before it is not considered under age."

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Not that it matters what other countries do, but since you brought it up, up until very recently arranged marriages in France with "children" were legal.



In other cultures inside the US, it's was and is legal to marry what you're calling "children".



In New Hampshire, girls can get married at 13 years old.



In Kansas and Mississippi, you can get married at 15.



In Georgia, you can get married at 16. In 1977, it was 13.



http://books.google.com/books?id=JR4X1DQqCBQC&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=%22marriage+age%22+%222005%22+%22france%22&source=bl&ots=_s-RJbWC5g&sig=TZlYFvOgEeuhV7g7QSr-Ljel9zw&hl=en&ei=0-XGSvqLDJOEswPc3tChBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4#v=onepage&q=%22marriage%20age%22%20%222005%22%20%22france%22&f=false



http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article-1G1-133755169/sidelights-france-senate-raises.html



http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/04/historical-variation-in-age-at-first-marriage.php



http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/datasets?tag=marriage&sort=rating
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