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Shouldn't George Zimmerman Be Required to Prove Self-Defense?

Sunday, March 25, 2012


Just on the facts that they had an unarmed minor who was also physically smaller than George Zimmerman (a good 100 lbs.), a 911 call in which Zimmerman was told to get back in his truck, go to a particular location and wait for the police to arrive and not to pursue Trayvon Martin, there was probable cause to arrest Zimmerman that night.  

Zimmerman's record was frosting on the probable cause (the photo all over the news of Zimmerman is a mug shot from an arrest for resisting arrest and battery on a law enforcement officer).    

Trayvon Martin was drug- and alcohol-tested, but George Zimmerman was not, and Trayvon Martin was identified as the voice screaming for help on the 911 calls made by the neighbors.  

Witnesses also have reported that they felt pressured to corroborate George Zimmerman's account by the leading questions that police asked.  Neighbors have reported that the police didn't question them, didn't knock on doors around the scene, didn't return their phone calls. 

There's probable cause and abundant evidence of police misconduct.  
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Dick Cheney Heart Transplant: Former Vice President Recovering After Undergoing Surgery


What an explosion of sock puppets!

Shame on HP.
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Dick Cheney Heart Transplant: Former Vice President Recovering After Undergoing Surgery


I think what we're seeing at HP is a 'full production' website, with hired commenters and moderators who are really editors out to shape the image of HP as a 'nice', non-incendiary, middle-of-the-road, infotainment venue.  Above and beyond all else, it's a business making money off of ads and clicks by readers.  It's not out to start a movement or be the rallying point for a revolution.  

So when story like Cheney's heart transplant appears, HP's moderators (editors) are out in full force, very much like Bloomberg's police 'ketting' OWS protestors, or arresting them in parked cars.

What threads like the Cheney heart transplant are good for is outing commenters who most likely are sock puppets, shills, paid political operatives working for either HP or the RNC/DNC/OFA operations (see HB Gary).
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Dick Cheney Heart Transplant: Former Vice President Recovering After Undergoing Surgery


Dear HP Moderators,

Don't you think that the heavy censorship you're exercising on this thread, eliminating all but well-wishing comments, is propaganda?  

It's the talk of the web, and it's never been more obvious how 'in bed' the media is with the establishment elites, by the false sense of support for Cheney that this thread is exposing.  Cheney is an evil SOB who should be in prison awaiting execution for the war crimes he perpetrated for his own personal gain.
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Dick Cheney Heart Transplant: Former Vice President Recovering After Undergoing Surgery


On NPR, host TerryGross asked investigative journalist SeymourHersh if, as he continues to investigate the BushAdministration, “more people” were “coming forward” to talk to him now that “the president and vp are no longer in power.” Hersh replied that though “a lot of people that had told me in the last year of Bush, ‘call me next, next February,’ not many people had talked to him. He implied that they were still scared of Cheney.

“Are you saying that you think VicePresidentCheney is still having a chilling effect on people who might otherwise be coming forward,” asked Gross. “I’ll make it worse,” answered Hersh, adding that he believes Cheney “put people back” in government to “stay behind” in order to “tell him what’s going on” and perhaps even “do sabotage”:

HERSH: I’ll make it worse. I think he’s put people left. He’s put people back. They call it a stay behind. It’s sort of an intelligence term of art. When you leave a country and, you know, you’ve driven out the, you know, you’ve lost the war. You leave people behind. It’s a stay behind that you can continue to contacts with, to do sabotage, whatever you want to do. Cheney’s left a stay behind. He’s got people in a lot of agencies that still tell him what’s going on. Particularly in defense, obviously. Also in the NSA, there’s still people that talk to him. He still knows what’s going on. Can he still control policy up to a point? Probably up to a point, a minor point. But he’s still there. He’s still a presence.

The idea that Cheney would seed the government with trusted contacts isn't surprising. As Hersh noted, Cheney has “been around forever” and “understands bureaucracy much better” than almost anyone in government. In 2006, RobertDreyfuss reported for The AmericanProspect that when Cheney helped staff the BushAdministration in 2001, he put together a “corps of hard-line acolytes” that served “as his eyes and ears” in the federal bureaucracy. Former officials called them “DickCheney’s spies.”

Additionally, before leaving office, the BushAdministration aggressively placed political appointees into permanent civil service positions as part of a process known as “burrowing.” Some of the burrowed former political appointees have close ties to Cheney.

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