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Barack Obama Waives Rule Allowing Indefinite Military Detention Of Americans

Friday, March 2, 2012


No, it hasn't, but it's interesting that an anonymous campaign to debunk it was attempted.

Not only did I see and hear Carl Levin say it on the Senate floor, but here is the transcript and video of it at CSpan (Levin speaks at 4:43:38).

And then there's the transcript in the Congressional Record.

SEN. CARL LEVIN: I'm wondering whether the Senator is familiar with the fact that the language which precluded the application of Section 1031 to American citizens was in the bill that we originally approved in the Armed Services Committee and the Administration asked us to remove the language which says that US citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section. 

Is the Senator familiar with the fact that it was the Administration that asked us to remove the very language which we had in the bill which passed the committee - and that we removed it at the request of the Administration - that would have said that this determination would not apply to US citizens and lawful residents?



Wouldn't it be spiffy if people actually researched the facts before they spread falsehoods?  If you'd followed the actual proceedings, you'd know that Obama had threatened to veto this bill, but it was never about substantive objections to the detention powers vested by this bill -- Obama's objections had nothing to do with civil liberties, or due process or the Constitution. It had everything to do with Executive power.  Obama's not an opponent of indefinite detention; he’s a vigorous proponent of it, as evidenced by his continuous, multi-faceted embrace of that policy.

His complaint was that Congress had no business tying the hands of the President when deciding who should go into military detention, who should be denied a trial, which agencies should interrogate suspects (the FBI or the CIA). Such decisions, Obama insists, are for the President, not Congress, to make. In other words, his veto threat was not grounded in the premise that indefinite military detention is wrong; it was grounded in the premise that it should be the President who decides who goes into military detention and why, not Congress.

Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

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