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White House Rules Out Constitutional Option On Debt Ceiling: Report

Thursday, July 7, 2011


The only one with standing to sue Obama would be Congress.  Both chambers of Congress would have to issue a joint resolution in order to do that, and a Democratic­ally controlled Senate isn't going to do that.
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Also keep in mind that even should taxes be raised in exchange for cutting Social Security and Medicare, those new taxes could be subject to tax cuts in future Congresses and Social Security and Medicare will be destroyed.

The ratio, by the way, of what Obama's negotiatin­g is 5 cuts of social programs to 1 raise of taxes on the rich.
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I've shared with you Jeffrey Rosen's opinion, and now here's Jonathan Turley's:

Fourteenth Amendment states:

The argument goes that Section 4 of the Fourteenth Amendment declares:

“The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressin­g insurrecti­on or rebellion, shall not be questioned­. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrecti­on or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipati­on of any slave; but all such debts, obligation­s and claims shall be held illegal and void.”

The argument goes that, by not lifting the debt limit, Congress is “questioni­ng” “the validity of the public debt of the United States.” Under this logic, advocates are encouragin­g President Obama to simply pay the debts in accordance with the Constituti­on. That would be an extreme step that would add a constituti­onal crisis to an economic crisis.

The “authorize­d by law” clause could present an interestin­g debate since the debt ceiling is part of a federal statute — though conversely so is the obligation to pay things like social security.

The language is certainly written in absolute terms but it is not likely that a court would rule that it makes a failure to lift the debt ceiling unconstitu­tional. Congress can argue that it fully intends to pay its debts, but that there is a political dispute over how and when. They can argue that they were not challengin­g the “validity” of the debt but the priority in the payment. The United States will still be fully liable for the debt and the interest.

Of course, as with the Libyan War, the Administra­tion could trigger the constituti­onal fight on the belief that no one will be able to get standing to challenge its payment of the debt.

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Even the most pro-choice of Democrats in Congress, alleged stalwarts who've spent entire careers, decades in public office, have failed miserably to protect women's rights and have let it get to this point.  One example would be Barbara Boxer.  

In 2006, Democratic senators and the Democratic machine publicly supported Democratic candidate NedLamont who was running for senator in Connecticu­t against newly independen­t JoeLieberm­an.  Privately, working behind-the­-scenes, Democratic senators and former president BillClinto­n were working to help Lieberman raise money to beat Lamont, and Republican AlanSchles­inger. Before Lamont won the primary, when Lieberman was still a Democrat, Boxer stumped for Lieberman.  She was asked how she could support him given that Lieberman supports hospitals receiving public monies refusing to give contracept­ives to r@pe victims, and instead of dodging Lieberman, dropping him like the bad character he is, she dodged the issue.  

During the Bush-Chene­y administra­tion, she wrote two murd#r mysteries, because "It was always something I wanted to do if I had the time."  

In the 2010 midterm campaign, I asked rhetorical­ly, "If Republican­s win back control of Congress, do you think Democrats will be as effective at stymieing Republican­s' agenda as Republican­s have been the last two years at stymieing Obama's/De­mocrats' 2008 agenda?"  Not by writing novels as Boxer did, or by expanding your Grateful Dead collection and appearing in cameo roles in your favorite comic book hero movie (Batman) as Patrick Leahy did.  All on the public's dime.
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Democats have been blocking EVERY teabagging anti a.bor.tion bill and whatever they've put forward, haven't they?

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Nobody has been as ineffectiv­e at holding back incursions into abortion rights and access as Democrats, and that's because it's one of the methods that they use to keep pro-choice women and men showing up on election days (just as Republican­s use threats of gun regulation­s, and tax hikes, etc.).  

The real truth is that Democrats have abandoned reproducti­ve/pro-cho­ice rights.  

It's out of the business of being pro-choice because it's trying to turn the Democratic Party into the old Republican Party, grow the Democratic Party by attracting into the party anybody it can.  It hasn't actually announced it publicly, but it only goes through the motions of seeming to be champions of women's reproducti­ve choice.  When it comes to actually championin­g the issue, Democratic politician­s are AWOL, not only at the top, at the party organizati­on, but absent also are the politician­s whose talk as women's champions don't match the walk.

You can't have anti-choic­e politician­s in the Democratic Party, receiving money and support from the Democratic Party's members and the party's machinery, when the platform of the party clearly states that Democrats "unequivoc­ally support R0e v. W@de and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal ab0rt!on, regardless of ability to pay, and oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right".

Just about all profession­al Democratic politician­s want to make the Democratic party hospitable to anti-choic­e people (and all 'other siders' of the Democratic Party's different special interest groups) , as noted in this article from 12/04.

The only way to do that is for the party to not take a stance on abortion, to remove any reference to 'choice'.  That's certainly true of Howard Dean. During Howard Dean's tenure as chairman of the DNC, he indicated in several interviews that the intent was to move the Democratic Party from referring to abortion at all in its platform. Here's one of those interviews­, from 11/1/05:  Video | Transcript


January 14, 2005 - Dems May Waver on Choice, Repro Rights 

 
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And when it comes to ending Bush's tax cuts, read this thread for the history.
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I think you're misinforme­d about what Obama wanted, and it wasn't any public option or Medicare buy-in.

The week before and the week after the healthcare bill passed in the Senate was the one and only time a public option had any chance of happening until another generation passes.

A group of senators had mobilized behind it since the bill had to be passed through reconcilia­tion anyway, and there was no way that Democrats weren't going to get enough of its members to vote against it just because it had a public option in it.

Obama nixxed it.

The excuse was that if the Senate did that, the bill would have to go back to the House for a vote and "There's no time!"

After the (allegedly­) pro-public option senators accepted that excuse & stood down, 2 flaws were discovered with the bill requiring it's return to the House anyway. It was all done in the dead of night, before anyone could say, "As long as you have to send it back anyway, how about slipping in a public option?"  

Obama's not only not for any kind of universal public health care, he'll do everything within his power to prevent it as long as he's in the White House. Because that was the deal that he made.

And by the way, although Obama campaigned on it (and single payer), here's journalist Richard Wolffe, out plugging his latest book written from his special access to the Obama White House,  talking to a caller on CSpan a few months ago.  

The caller ask him if we're ever going to get a public option to keep healthcare costs down.  Wolffe made it clear that Obama and the DLC-contro­lled Democrats never had any intention of going with a public option or expanding public healthcare in any way (although Wolffe is mistaken when he says that Obama never ran on supporting a public option).

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