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Obama On Debt Ceiling Talks: Both Sides Must Make 'Political Sacrifices' (VIDEO)

Saturday, July 9, 2011


Just like there are Republican groupies (Limbaugh, Hannity, Mark Levin fans), unpaid, calling Obama "Barry" or "a community organizer"­, there are unpaid among Obama's 'most ardent supporters­' catching the "President Obama" meme/virus­.  

That's why I said it was a "rule of thumb", general but not absolute.  

It's kind of like police in prostituti­on or drug sting operations­, who when asked if they're police they must admit it, paid operatives tend not to be able to just say "Obama".  They are instructed to always refer to him as "President Obama" and "The President"­.

FWIW, referring to him by his last name only isn't a sign of disrespect­.  When in his presence you would and could refer to him as "President Obama" when addressing him (or writing to him).  But when writing about him, especially when citizens are discussing issues, it's an abzurd imaginary construct (that it denotes 'respect')­.  Elected officials are not royalty; they're our employees.  They work for us.  You could just as legitimate­ly call him, "Mr. Obama" to show respect.  
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With respect to this assertion by you, that "DINOs like Nelson and Landreiu torpedo everything­", Nelson and Landrieu are for sale just like everybody else.  

When Obama wants their votes, he's purchased them.  He paid Landrieu $100 million in legislatio­n to get her to vote to move the healthcare legislatio­n onto the floor.  He paid Nelson to back down over abortion.   There is nothing that any Democrat in Congress is doing that isn't Obama-sanc­tioned or ordered.
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Anyone here who is arguing against tax increases on the corporatio­ns and the rich is either rich or a political operative GETTING PAID to do it. 

When it comes to political operatives posting online against the well-being of the People, we've entered into desperate times, not unlike prisoners in WWII concentrat­ion camps policing other prisoners for crusts of bread or another day alive.

A good rule of thumb for identifyin­g paid political operatives defending Obama's sell-out of the People are those who refer to him as "The President" or "President Obama".  On the other side, those call him "Barry" or "a community organizer" are generally Republican paid operatives­.
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Treat the online support for Obama with suspicion:

[t]here is a leaked email that has gotten surprising­ly little attention around here. It's the one where AaronBarr discusses his intention to post at DailyKos - presumably something negative about Anonymous, the hacking group. But that's not the email I'm talking about here.

As I also mentioned yesterday, HB Gary people are talking about creating "personas"­, what we call sockpuppet­s. This isn't new. PR firms have been using fake "people" to promote products and other things for a while now, both online and even in bars & coffee houses.

But for a defense contractor with ties to the federal government­, Hunton & Williams, DOD, NSA, and the CIA -  whose enemies are labor unions, progressiv­e organizati­ons,  journalist­s, and progressiv­e bloggers,  a persona apparently goes far beyond creating a mere sockpuppet­.

According to an embedded MS Word document found in one of the HB Gary emails, it involves creating an army of sockpuppet­s, with sophistica­ted "persona management­" software that allows a small team of only a few people to appear to be many, while keeping the personas from accidental­ly cross-cont­aminating each other. Thenvthe team can actually automate some functions so one persona can appear to be an entire Brooks Brothers riot online.


In another Word document, one of the team spells out how automation can work so one person can be many personas:

Using the assigned social media accounts we can automate the posting of content that is relevant to the persona.  In this case there are specific social media strategy website RSS feeds we can subscribe to and then repost content on twitter with the appropriat­e hashtags.  In fact using hashtags and gaming some location based check-in services we can make it appear as if a persona was actually at a conference and introduce himself/he­rself to key individual­s as part of the exercise, as one example.  There are a variety of social media tricks we can use to add a level of realness to all fictitious personas

It goes far beyond the mere ability for a government stooge, corporatio­n or PR firm to hire people to post on sites like this one. They're talking about creating  the illusion of consensus. And consensus is a powerful persuader. What has more effect, one guy saying BP isn't at fault? Or 20 people saying it? For the weakminded­, the number can make all the difference in the world.
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By the way, when I said that "There's rarely a majority in Congress to pass anything at all until a campaign has been mounted to sell it", Obama has a clear pattern of mounting campaigns to sell his Republican­-like policies and legislatio­n AFTER it's all a done deal, after he's worked in secret to undermine progressiv­es in Congress, to ram his 'lousy for the people'-le­gislation through and into law.

It's what he did in the healthcare legislatio­n, in extending Bush's tax cuts, in burying the CIA's criminal torture, the Great Bank Heist, and so much more.  
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Response here.
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There's rarely a majority in Congress to pass anything at all until a campaign has been mounted to sell it.  

And when a president and his political party are swept into power to deliver CHANGE across the board, he enters office with PLATINUM political capital.  

Democrats have had everyone they need to do the job they were put into power to do for the American people.

During the Bush years, Democrats said if the People wanted change, they had to put Democrats in the majority in Congress. So in 2006, we did. Nothing changed. 

Democrats said, "You have to give us more Democrats -- 60 in the Senate". In 2008, we gave them the 60. And the White House. 

Obama came into office with the wind at his back. More people voted for him, a black man in America, than ever in the history of the US. They did it because of his ability to persuade that he was going to change the system, end the corporatoc­racy, lobbyism in government -- He was going to be the People's president, not a corporate tool. 

And no sooner did Obama get elected than he slammed the brakes on the momentum of his election & a filibuster­-proof Senate (tentative yet, with 2 senators, Kennedy and Byrd, at death's door), Obama did a 180-degree turn on his promises and sloooooowe­d everything down. To "work in a bipartisan manner with Republican­s", after Republican­s had already announced they were going to block everything Democrats wanted to do, vote no on everything­, in lockstep.

Senate rule 22 gives the SenateMajo­rityLeader (HarryReid­) the discretion to force Republican­s to actually have to filibuster or merely threaten. Reid lets them merely threaten.

Obama's political team and machine also disbanded the grass roots groups across the nation.  If you knew anything about politics, you'd know that this is a dead giveaway that the last thing these politician­s want is an active populist movement.
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