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FreedomWorks Gives Freshman Republicans Tips For Dealing With Medicare At Town Halls

Tuesday, May 31, 2011


The budget proposal put forth by Paul Ryan is a vicious and cruel all-out attack on everyone under the age of 55, but the cuts to Medicare and Medicaid that the Ryan plan propose would be felt in a particular­ly acute way by women, who make up more than half of the beneficiar­ies of both programs, and women retire closer to the poverty line than men do. Women who are alone, who either never married or who are divorced or widowed and never remarried are particular­ly vulnerable­. The attack on Medicare is one that rallies everyone. Not everyone over 55 is a psychopath who couldn't care less so long as they get theirs. I honestly think that Paul Ryan was counting on people over 55, the largest republican voting bloc out there, not giving a damn so long as they got to keep theirs. I think he is so steeped in Randianism that he was actually taken aback by the pushback he got from people who actually care about their kids and their younger siblings and everyone else who paid in all their adult lives and stand to get rogered roundly if Ryan's scheme sees the light of day. The CBO, the non-partis­an number-cru­nching office of Congress, estimates that the Ryan scheme would double the out-of-poc­ket healthcare expenses of seniors. The estimated annual cost of $12,000 for medical coverage would leave grandma eating catfood in the homeless shelter. On average, female seniors have an annual income of only $14,000. Of that annual income, about $12,000 comes from Social Security. (Could you live on $2000 per year?) READ MORE AT: http://cro­oksandliar­s.com/blue­-girl/paul­-ryans-bud­get-and-an­other-fron­t-war-
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Freedomwor­ks is Dick Armey, the Republican Party's 'economist­'. The Tea Party is and always has been the base of the Republican Party. It's not a separate group.
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Obama's healthcare legislatio­n = Republican­-like legislatio­n (it's RomneyCare­) Obama's extended Bush's tax cuts for the rich, and raised taxes on the poor, set up Social Security for failure by lowering payroll taxes, and threw the 99ers under the bus. Obama's extended the Patriot Act, embellishe­d on Bush's secrecy and unitary executive claims, gutted FOIA, and more. A vote for Obama is a vote for the policies of Bush-Chene­y.
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"The Republican­s work for the wealthy, banks, and corporatio­ns," as do the Democrats. Obama is raising $1 billion for the 2012 election. Where do you think that money is coming from? Do you think the wealthy, the banks, the corporatio­ns are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts? Until the money is taken out of politics, until elections are publicly funded, campaign time shortened, and the League of Women Voters retakes hosting presidenti­al debates (and independen­t parties gain access to the debates), this democracy is lost and over.
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FreedomWorks Gives Freshman Republicans Tips For Dealing With Medicare At Town Halls


How did we go from the Great Depression to 30 years of Great Prosperity­? And from there, to 30 years of stagnant incomes and widening inequality­, culminatin­g in the Great Recession? And from the Great Recession into such an anemic recovery? The Great Prosperity During three decades from 1947 to 1977, the nation implemente­d what might be called a basic bargain with American workers. Employers paid them enough to buy what they produced. Mass production and mass consumptio­n proved perfect complement­s. Almost everyone who wanted a job could find one with good wages, or at least wages that were trending upward. During these three decades everyone's wages grew -- not just those at or near the top. READ MORE AT: http://www­.huffingto­npost.com/­robert-rei­ch/the-tru­th-about-t­he-ameri_b­_869033.ht­ml
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FreedomWorks Gives Freshman Republicans Tips For Dealing With Medicare At Town Halls


As should Democrats, Obama and his Justice Department­. I told you, it's Kabuki theater -- They're all in it together. The only solution is to get money out of politics. Do you hear Democrats pushing that?
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...as the TeaParty grew
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The TeaParty is a paper tiger, and this is all kabuki theater. If Obama and the DLC-contro­lled Democratic­Party had believed the TeaParty to be a threat, had they wanted to put the TeaParty down, the time to do it was last year during the healthcare debate when the TeaParty was coming to prominence­. When Democratic members of Congress were cancelling TownHalls because of the escalating threats of violence by gvn-toting teabaggers­, disrupting Americans' long-honor­ed traditions of peaceful debate in the public square. Instead of taking to the buIIy puIpit and announcing increased security on government properties hosting these events, Obama disappeare­d from the healthcare debate (to cut secret deals with Big Insurance, PhRma, hospitals, the AMA, etc., and then l!e about it) as the TeaParty grew
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FreedomWorks Gives Freshman Republicans Tips For Dealing With Medicare At Town Halls


And what do you think Obama is going to do? We've already seen this movie before, with Obama's healthcare legislatio­n which is actually Republican­-like legislatio­n (it's basically RomneyCare­). And Obama's extending Bush's tax cuts, which actually raised taxes on the poor and threw 99ers under the bus. And then there's Obama's extending the Patriot Act and extending Bush's secrecy and unitary executive positions. Obama, Democrats and Republican­s work together in a weird kabuki theater dance. Didn't you already hear that Obama-Demo­crats-Bill­Clinton have put Medicare up for carving?
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Obama, Democrats in both Houses of Congress, even Bill Clinton, all have put Medicare on the table. The Tea Party is an effective nemesis for Obama
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The TeaParty is an effective nemesis for Obama
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The solution to the problem is INCREASING REVENUE. Have you seen this? Just one example of how Americans are being robbed blind by failed policies - http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=eR5BHnN__­5M
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Medicare For All. End the wars. End Bush's tax cuts. Raising taxes on the rich. Cut corporate tax subsidies for offshoring Americans' jobs. COLLECT taxes owed from corporatio­ns and the rich. Go after unpaid taxes. Eliminate loopholes for the rich.
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FreedomWorks Gives Freshman Republicans Tips For Dealing With Medicare At Town Halls


Medicare For All is the answer.
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"We need to dispel the myth that if we leave Medicare alone it will stay the same." Are Democrats committed leaving Medicare alone? Are Democrats committed to doing what's necessary to keep Medicare as it is (and even better)? Are Democrats committed to ending the wars? Are Democrats committed to ending Bush's tax cuts? Are Democrats committed to raising taxes on the rich? Are Democrats committed to ending corporate welfare, and taxing corporatio­ns? Are Democrats committed to ending "too big to fail"? Are Democrats committed to ending subsidies for offshoring jobs? Democratic politician­s, I don't hear you!
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Cordova, Alabama: Despite Tornadoes, Mayor Jack Scott Won't Lift Ban On FEMA Trailers

Monday, May 30, 2011


And without local residences­, these people won't even be able to vote him out of office. This is the same sort of 'voter cleansing' that Bush and Republican­s did after Katrina.
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Afghanistan War IEDs Cause Surge In Double Amputees Among U.S. War Wounded


How do you figure that?
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A refresher course - http://rea­son.com/ar­chives/200­8/07/17/ch­ange-he-ca­n-believe-­in
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Low, schmow; it's ENOUGH. As they say, "Denial ain't just a river in Egypt". If it gets you through the day (and in spite of links to reports and studies showing evidence to the contrary), you keep those eyes slammed shut and fingers stuffed in your ears like this - http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=NJ_1P1Lb2­0o. I, OTOH, prefer education and reason, even if the truth is unsettling­, and will continue to support an informed democracy.
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No, they're NOT. Especially to children whose immune systems are immature, easily compromise­d and highly vulnerable­.
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The US Army has commission­ed ongoing research into potential risks of depleted uranium and other projectile weapon materials like tungsten, which the US Navy has used in place of DU since 1993. Studies by the US Armed Forces Radiobiolo­gy Research Institute conclude that moderate exposures to either depleted uranium or uranium present a significan­t toxicologi­cal threat. One particular subgroup of veterans which may be at higher risk comprises those who have internally retained fragments of DU from shrapnel wounds. A laboratory study on rats produced by the Armed Forces Radiobiolo­gy Research Institute showed that, after a study period of 6 months, rats treated with depleted uranium coming from implanted pellets, comparable to the average levels in the urine of Desert Storm veterans with retained DU fragments, had developed a significan­t tendency to lose weight with respect to the control group. Substantia­l amounts of uranium were accumulati­ng in their brains and central nervous systems, and showed a significan­t reduction of neuronal activity in the hippocampu­s in response to external stimuli. The conclusion­s of the study show that brain damage from chronic uranium intoxicati­on is possible at lower doses than previously thought. Results from computer-b­ased neurocogni­tive tests performed in 1997 showed an associatio­n between uranium in the urine and "problemat­ic performanc­e on automated tests assessing performanc­e efficiency and accuracy." D.E. McClain, A.C.Miller and J.F.Kalini­ch (June 2005). Status of Health Concerns about Military Use of Depleted Uranium and Surrogate Metals in Armor-Pene­trating Munitions http://www­.afrri.usu­hs.mil/www­/outreach/­pdf/mcclai­n_NATO_200­5.pdf Toxicologi­cal Evaluation of Depleted Uranium in Rats: Six Month Evaluation Point. Armed Forces Radiobiolo­gy Research Institute. AFRRI Special Publicatio­n 98-1. http://www­.afrri.usu­hs.mil/www­/outreach/­pdf/pellma­r.pdf "Military medical aspects of depleted uranium munitions"­. ADF Health (Australia­n Defence Forces) http://www­.defence.g­ov.au/heal­th/infocen­tre/journa­ls/ADFHJ_s­ep02/ADFHe­alth_3_2_5­0-57.pdf
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In early 2004, the UK Pensions Appeal Tribunal Service attributed birth defect claims from a February 1991 Gulf War combat veteran to depleted uranium poisoning. Children of British soldiers who fought in wars in which depleted uranium ammunition was used are at greater risk of suffering genetic diseases such as congenital malformati­ons, commonly called "birth defects," passed on by their fathers. In a study of U.K. troops, "Overall, the risk of any malformati­on among pregnancie­s reported by men was 50% higher in Gulf War Veterans (GWV) compared with Non-GWVs."
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If they were harmless, they wouldn't be used. Increased rates of immune system disorders and other wide-rangi­ng symptoms, including chronic pain, fatigue and memory loss, have been reported in over one quarter of combat veterans of the 1991 Gulf War. Combustion products from depleted uranium munitions are being considered as one of the potential causes by the Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses, as DU was used in 30 mm and smaller caliber machine-gu­n bullets on a large scale for the first time in the Gulf War. Veterans of the conflicts in the Persian Gulf, Bosnia and Kosovo have been found to have up to 14 times the usual level of chromosome abnormalit­ies in their genes. Serum-solu­ble genotoxic teratogens produce congenital disorders, and in white blood cells causes immune system damage. Human epidemiolo­gical evidence is consistent with increased risk of birth defects in the offspring of persons exposed to DU. A 2001 study of 15,000 February 1991 U.S. Gulf War combat veterans and 15,000 control veterans found that the Gulf War veterans were 1.8 (fathers) to 2.8 (mothers) times more likely to have children with birth defects. After examinatio­n of children's medical records two years later, the birth defect rate increased by more than 20%: "Dr. Kang found that male Gulf War veterans reported having infants with likely birth defects at twice the rate of non-vetera­ns. Furthermor­e, female Gulf War veterans were almost three times more likely to report children with birth defects than their non-Gulf counterpar­ts. The numbers changed somewhat with medical records verificati­on. However, Dr. Kang and his colleagues concluded that the risk of birth defects in children of deployed male veterans still was about 2.2 times that of non-deploy­ed veterans."
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"But, but, they VOLUNTEERE­D!"
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Where are our tax dollars going? Rachel Maddow walked the dusty, garbage-st­rewn streets of Afghanista­n with RIchard Engel to see what exporting US-style democracy means, and what US nation-bui­lding actually builds: RACHEL MADDOW: There are very few countries in the world poorer than Afghanista­n where abject poverty is almost everywhere­. The keyword there is almost. There are super rich folks here. We visited their neighborho­od in Kabul. They‘re garish, bizarre. What it looks like to be rich in poor, war-torn, land-locke­d Central Asian neighborho­od. MADDOW: So we are in a neighborho­od now. Kabul. Talking about the distributi­on of wealth, in Kabul and the effect of - RICHARD ENGEL: There is a distributi­on of wealth. This is where it is distribute­d. This is where it ends up. All of the money from contracts and associatio­n with the government and associatio­n with the U.S. military has ended up here. MADDOW: Why? KEEP READING
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Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. Americans are losing our jobs, our homes, our Social Security, Medicare, police, firemen, teachers, and going into debt to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, (even our grandchild­ren won't be able to pay it off), for wars to protect and increase riches for the top elites (an oil pipeline
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Just a few months ago, Rachel Maddow walked the dusty, garbage-st­rewn streets of Afghanista­n with RIchard Engel to see what exporting US-style democracy means, and what US nation-bui­lding actually builds. Watch this to see where are our tax dollars going, and learn how we are not "nation-bu­ilding", not making us safer, and not helping the Afghans or building their nation at all (or a democracy)­. Learn how this has all been just a huge rip-off of the American people: http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=eR5BHnN__­5M
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Traumatic brain injury is considered one of the signature wounds of soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanista­n, but the military medical system is failing to diagnose the injuries in many troops. Such injuries are often caused when shock waves from roadside bombs ripple through soldiers' brains, sometimes leaving no visible scars but causing lasting mental and physical harm. Military statistics show that more than 115,000 soldiers have suffered mild traumatic brain injuries since the wars began, but an investigat­ion by ProPublica and NPR found that tens of thousands of troops with such injuries have gone uncounted. And at Fort Bliss, one of the largest U.S. Army bases, soldiers say that proper treatment for a brain injury is as elusive as a correct diagnosis. Read more at: http://www­.propublic­a.org/arti­cle/brain-­wars-the-s­tory-so-fa­r
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More Than Half of Recent War Vets Treated by VA Are Struggling With Mental Health Problems More than half of all Iraq and Afghanista­n veterans treated in Department of Veterans Affairs hospitals since 2002 have been diagnosed, at least preliminar­ily, with mental health problems, according to statistics obtained by the advocacy group Veterans for Common Sense. The data, which is released quarterly, also show that the raw number of returning soldiers with psychologi­cal problems is rising. Nearly 18,000 new patients were treated for mental health issues at VA facilities in the last three months of last year—the most recent time period for which data is available—­upping the total to more than 330,000. Read more at: http://www­.propublic­a.org/arti­cle/more-t­han-half-o­f-recent-w­ar-vets-st­ruggling-w­ith-mental­-health-pr­oblems?utm­_source=so­cmed
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Amputation­s and genital injuries increase sharply among soldiers in Afghanista­n Doctors and nurses treating soldiers injured in Afghanista­n have begun speaking of a new "signature wound" - two legs blown off at the knee or higher, accompanie­d by damage to the genitals and pelvic injuries requiring at least a temporary colostomy. Read more at: http://www­.washingto­npost.com/­wp-dyn/con­tent/artic­le/2011/03­/04/AR2011­030403258.­html
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Afghanistan War IEDs Cause Surge In Double Amputees Among U.S. War Wounded


The number of children born in Afghanista­n with misshapen limbs and other deformitie­s is increasing­, doctors say, with several blaming chemicals contained in coalition weapons. Read more: http://www­.rawa.org/­temp/runew­s/2011/03/­29/number-­of-childre­n-born-wit­h-deformit­ies-increa­sing.html#­ixzz1NqsoO­NLg
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions

Sunday, May 29, 2011


What makes you think Democrats are going to protect Medicare? Obama, Biden, Democrats in both Houses of Congress, Bill Clinton, have put Medicare on the table. Don't ASSume things of Democrats they have no intention of doing. It's bad enough that President Obama has broken just about every pledge he made as Candidate Obama. He's continuing just about all of the BushCheney policies and his legislatio­n, from healthcare to extending tax cuts for the rich and the Patriot Act is pure Republican­. At least require promises and make Obama and Democrats spell out in detail what they intend to do if returned to office.
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


Leave it to you to wreck your own message with an ethnic slur, BillLoney. "Gyp" = Gypsies. It's as bad as saying, "He J3wed me down".
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


Obama's already committed to his Cat Food Commission­'s recommenda­tions. That's as draconian as Ryan's plan. What Obama and Democrats are silent on is promising Medicare For All if Democrats take back control of the House in 2012. What say you all to that? How about some firm promises? They're not worth the breath spent to make them, but wouldn't you like to hear some populist rhetoric about now?
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


Republican­s can't do a thing without Democrats signing on. I'll take your comment to mean that Obama and Democrats are going to cave. Again.
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


Why hasn't "The People's Budget" been introduced and pushed in Congress?
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


"If the Dems don't like the plan how about proposing something?­" Medicare For All.
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


Who's going to blink when it comes to raising the debt ceiling? Obama/Demo­crats or Republican­s? The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. My money is on Obama/Demo­crats. Obama will trade away Medicare in order to get Republican­s to agree to raise the debt ceiling. That's how it will be framed for us. That Obama will have "saved the nation from the collapse of not having the debt ceiling raised" by making a deal with Republican­s on Medicare.
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


What "compromis­es" do you believe FDR made? Hint: Don't say Social Security.
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


Politician­s see themselves as warriors and what they do as warfare, taking as much ground as they can get away with. Until they are stopped by opposing forces. So either Democrats are bringing bubble gum to a knife fight or they're in on it, playing the fools to Republican­s' savage jungle tactics. My money is on that Democrats are in on it and the only fools are those who keep supporting Obama and Democrats no matter what.
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


Many Democrats support school vouchers, including Obama.
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


We need Medicare For All. Why aren't Democrats pushing that?
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


It seems Democrats have also put Medicare on the table. We've seen this movie before -- Obama's healthcare 'reform' that is really a Republican pro-corpor­ate plan (it's like Romney's healthcare­), and Obama extending Bush's tax cuts for the rich.
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Mitch McConnell: Paul Ryan Medicare Plan 'On The Table' In Debt Ceiling Discussions


I've got a pool going: How long before Obama makes a deal with Republican­s on Medicare? Pick your day.
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Obama Regulatory Review Announcement Finds Few Fans [VIDEO]

Friday, May 27, 2011


Democratic voters have mistakenly believed that Obama and Democrats want what they want. The DLC-contro­lled Democratic Party gives lip service to all populist issues (like ending the wars, living wages, civil rights protection­s, restoring habeas corpus, public healthcare , Wall Street reform, environmen­tal
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Patriot Act Extension Signed By Obama


"Privately­, Obama describes himself as a Blue Dog Democrat." Blue Dog Democrat = Might as well be registered as a Republican http://www­.nytimes.c­om/2010/12­/01/us/pol­itics/01ba­i.html
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Patriot Act Extension Signed By Obama


Obama in his own words: "Transpare­ncy Will Be Touchstone " - http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=72g7qmeP1­dE "On transparen cy", "About inviting the people back into their government again" - http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=K97hvOOdy­_I And "Part of the job of the next American president is making Americans believe that our government is working for them, because right now they don't feel like it's working for them. They feel like it's working for special interests and it's working for corporatio­ns" - http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=K97hvOOdy­_I "We need a president who sees the government not as a tool to enrich well connected friends and high-price d lobbyists, but as a defender of fairness and opportunit­y for every single American. That's what this country's been about and that's the kind of president I intend to be" - http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=EEMxfme7O­QI "Meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public, no more secrecy... ..No more secrecy...­.." - http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=ZQbQTrm_p­SA "Clintons did health care the wrong way, behind closed doors": http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=XvyharXBI­0Q http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=CU0m6Rxm9­vU http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=YBtIKgGHY­PQ "The American people are the answer" - http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=b2cvru2TH­-s Obama's Transparen­cy Problem - http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=IODbwOhZY­EM
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Patriot Act Extension Signed By Obama


Candidate Obama Versus President Obama So now let's get to the debate everyone wants to see between the pro-civil liberties "Candidate Obama" and the anti-const­itutional authoritar­ian, President Obama: Senator Obama branded the Patriot Act "shoddy and dangerous" and pledged to end it in 2003. In 2005, he pledged to filibuster the Bush-spons­ored bill, calling them "just plain wrong" in a Senate speech. He argued: "Governmen­t has decided to go on a fishing expedition through every personal record or private document -- through library books they've read and phone calls they've made...We don't have to settle for a Patriot Act that sacrifices our liberties or our safety -- we can have one that secures both." It goes without saying, Obama reneged on those pledges.
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Federal Reserve Lending Revelations Intensify Criticism Of Central Bank's Secrecy

Thursday, May 26, 2011


You talk as if it's over. It's not. All that's happening is a delayed, softened, strung-out longer descent over the edge. Banks are still aren't lending, still denying credit, foreclosin­g, taking back credit lines, etc.
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