General George Casey: US Could Be At War For Another Decade

ENGEL: It can breed corruption. Just having so much money injected into an economy. Afghanistan is very poor and it was isolated from the world except for the last 30 years of war which was an unpleasant interaction with the world for hundreds of years. And now, you have a totally different scale of economy coming in, billions of dollars a month. This country never saw anything like that.



MADDOW: It is going to people who are - it‘s not going to build the country. It is going to people who have private armies. It‘s going to people who are -



ENGEL: Next to giant houses, these streets are not even paved.



MADDOW: Yes.



ENGEL: I think that gives you an idea of how much the social services are spreading.



MADDOW: So when you hear the government, when you hear the leadership say, “We don‘t want the Americans to leave. We don‘t want the war to be over” -



ENGEL: There is an incentive -



MADDOW: Think about this neighborhood.



ENGEL: There is an incentive because war is a profitable business for many people.



MADDOW: Yes.



ENGEL: I think this neighborhood is actually very symbolic of a lot of the problems with this entire world, frankly. And here, next to an incredibly big house is an open garbage pile, because no one cares about the common space. Nobody - it is not anybody‘s problem. That is what you see everywhere. You know, you have a giant -



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