A repository for Marcospinelli's comments and essays published at other websites.

Jeb Bush Defends Immigration Flip-Flop, Stays Mum On 2016 Run

Thursday, March 14, 2013


How can you try to offer lies from people making money writing books against Bush

==================================

Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill under BushCheney shouldn't be believed?

And BushCheney's former Secretary of State Colin Powell's Chief of Staff Lawrence Wilkerson is lying?

Valerie Plame testified under oath before Congress - Is she lying, too?

Why are you not calling for the release of Cheney's secret energy task force's minutes?  
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

Jeb Bush Defends Immigration Flip-Flop, Stays Mum On 2016 Run


Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Feith, et al, should be facing charges in front of war crimes tribunals.
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

Jeb Bush Defends Immigration Flip-Flop, Stays Mum On 2016 Run


Again, you resort to ad hominem insults (accusing someone of lying is an ad hominem attack).  Apparently I can lead you to facts, to testimony, complete with links, but I can't make you think.  

The quotes you offer from Democratic politicians don't make your case, and here's why:  We do NOT take a nation to war based on what its leader is "seeking" or "developing".  If that were so, we'd have already attacked N. Korea or Iran.  

BushCheney cherry-picked intelligence that was faulty, had been discounted or proven false or forged, and kept forcing it down the media's throats (and ours, the public's), or reintroducing it through news venues (Judith Miller's columns in the NYT, is an example of that) and then pointing to it saying, "Even the NYT says it's true" (after BushCheney had given the false information to Judith Miller).  

As far as whether Democratic politicians are weak-minded or brainwashed, they're really not any different than you, me, or most other people when kept in the dark and fed BS - We become mushrooms.  
As Goebbels noted in N@zi Germany:

“It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be molded until they clothe ideas and disguise.”  

“The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.”  

“If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.”

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.”

“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”

BushCheney proved Goebbels correct and Democrats were powerless, for whatever reason (weak-minded, stvpid, corrupt, cowardly, whatever), to stop it.  When you've got Lynne Cheney and Joe Lieberman emulating Joe McCarthy, calling for the blacklisting of professors who would dare to question the administration's 'war on terrorism', the fix was in that opponents to BushCheney would be steamrolled.  And we all were, some of us temporarily (Chris Matthews is a good example of someone who was against the war, but got out of the way of the administration's stampede, in order to fight another day) and others permanently (Max Clelland, Valerie Plame, Joe Wilson, Phil Donohue, to name just a few).  
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

Jeb Bush Defends Immigration Flip-Flop, Stays Mum On 2016 Run

Wednesday, March 13, 2013


As I keep saying and you keep dodging, everything said by Bush was first said by Democrats before he ever took office.

==================================

The only "dodging" is from you, who fails to understand the difference between 1998 and 2003, the parties different solutions to getting weapons' inspection on track.  

UN weapons inspectors didn't support the AUMF, and obviously weapons inspections were working because there were no WMD.  

BushCheney planned to attack Iraq long before 9/11, long before Bush was even in the WhiteHouse.  Bush biographer MickeyHerskowitz dates Bush's plans to two years before he got into the OvalOffice.  We know from PaulO'Neill, Bush's TreasurySecretary, about BushCheney's 'jones' to attack Iraq from the first cabinet meeting, two weeks after getting into the Oval Office.  And then there's Cheney's energy task force, dividing up Iraq's oil fields in the spring of 2001 - You couldn't possibly have any objection to getting the secret minutes of those meetings, could you?

BushCheney tried to conflate 9/11 with SaddamHussein in order to get Congress to go along with their plans to attack Iraq (remember 'Curveball'? The forged Niger documents about yellowcake?).  When that didn't work, BushCheney invented the aluminum tubes' story - ColinPowell knew it was BS.  According to Powell’s CoS LawrenceWilkerson, Powell was skeptical of the entire case for war, but hid that from the public, even as he was used by the administration to sell the war to the UNSecurityCouncil and the American public. “Powell walked into my office,” on the day Congress passed the AUMF, “and without so much as a fare-thee-well, he walked over to the window and said, ‘I wonder what’ll happen when we put 500,000 troops into Iraq and comb the country from one end to the other and find nothing?’ And he turned around and walked back in his office. I wrote that down on my calendar — as close to verbatim as I could, because I thought that was a profound statement coming from the SoS, former chairman of the JCOS.”

CondoleezaRice went on all of the Sunday morning shows repeating, "mushroom cloud", and their *SHOCK&AWE* campaign to pressure Congress into giving them the authority to go to war worked.  BushCheney actually did it a step at a time, telling Congress that it was necessary in order for Bush to appear strong and backed by the entire government when he went to the UN to get more sanctions and pressure on Iraq.  
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

Jeb Bush Defends Immigration Flip-Flop, Stays Mum On 2016 Run

Tuesday, March 12, 2013


Oh bull, Pelosi clearly said there were WMD's, there never was full cooperation with any inspectors to change that assessment, never.

================================

In 1998, in order to get weapons inspections back on track, which it did.  

UN weapons inspectors did NOT support military intervention in 2003, and obviously there WAS full compliance because there were no WMDs!

What Gore had to say or what those who voted to give BushCheney the AUMF believed was all based on FALSE intel (remember 'Curveball'?) and FORGED evidence.  We know from Bush biographer Mickey Herskowitz that Bush wanted to invade Iraq two years before 9/11 and planned to do it if he got into the Oval Office.  Nothing about Al Qaeda in Iraq then.  Let's also get the minutes from Cheney's energy task force meetings, where he carved up Iraq's oil fields.

The American people were duped and left holding this $3 trillion bag, and you're still looking to excuse BushCheney?  You're either on their payroll or too dvmb to think for yourself.  Why on earth would you or anyone who was on the level even try to prevent a legitimate investigation?
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

Jeb Bush Defends Immigration Flip-Flop, Stays Mum On 2016 Run


You are blind to the fact that the "evidence" BushCheney proffered as their basis for taking the US to war was forged and/or manufactured.  Whether it was the Niger documents or the DowningStreet memo or the CIA's faking photographs of UAVs, there was/is plenty of evidence that *SOMEBODY* wanted the US to bomb Iraq into oblivion, and given how it was the BushCheney administration driving the stories, pressing Congress for authorization, representing the "evidence" as legitimate, if you don't believe that BushCheney lied then why aren't you calling for an investigation as to who else might have been behind all of it?
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

Actor Ed Begley Jr.: Obama 'Should Die In His Boots' In Fight Against Climate Change (VIDEO)


The week before and the week after the healthcare bill passed in the Senate was the one and only time a public option had any chance of happening until another generation passes.

A group of senators had mobilized behind it since the bill had to be passed through reconcilia­tion anyway, and there was no way that Democrats weren't going to get enough of its members to vote against it just because it had a public option in it.

Obama nixxed it.

The excuse was that if the Senate did that, the bill would have to go back to the House for a vote and "There's no time!"

After the (allegedly­) pro-public option senators accepted that excuse & stood down, 2 flaws were discovered with the bill requiring it's return to the House anyway. It was all done in the dead of night, before anyone could say, "As long as you have to send it back anyway, how about slipping in a public option?"  

Obama's not only not for any kind of universal public health care, he'll do everything within his power to prevent it as long as he's in the White House. Because that was the deal that he made.  Those who believe that Obama's healthcare legislatio­n is "increment­al change", it institutio­nalizes the insurance industry as the gatekeeper­s to medical treatment (requiring having a job, too), which is something that everybody wanted to end.  And there never will be a public option or any kind of affordable­, quality medical care for all as long as Obama and DLC-contro­lled Democrats are in office: "There Won't Be Any Public Option--Ob­ama Never Was For It".  Watch it and weep.

FYI - There's rarely a majority in Congress to pass anything at all until a campaign has been mounted to sell it.  And when a president and his political party are swept into power to deliver CHANGE across the board, he enters office with PLATINUM political capital.  

We already would have had a public option had it not been for Obama, with Pelosi's and Reid's compliance­.  We actually would have already had real healthcare reform legislatio­n (single payer universal healthcare­), but Obama had to get it off the table before negotiatio­ns ever began.  Because if affordable­, quality medical care for everyone is the goal, everything else pales next to single payer.  And that's why Obama had to get it off the table.
Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

Read more...

About This Blog

  © Blogger templates Newspaper by Ourblogtemplates.com 2008

Back to TOP