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Enhanced Interrogation Techniques: Little Evidence That Harsh Treatment Used By CIA Produced Any Counter-Terrorism Breakthroughs

Friday, April 27, 2012


Guidebook to False Confessions": Key Document John Yoo Used to Draft Torture Memo Released

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The National Security Committee (Condi Rice and several high level Bush officials) Knew They Were Going to Get FALSE Confessions from Torture
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You're half right.

It's to get false information, but it's got nothing to do with the wishes of the interrogators.  The EIT order came from inside the White House.

It was to set up a justification to attack Iraq.  To link 9/11 and Iraq.  To link Saddam Hussein to Al Qaeda.  
About Torture
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Waterboarding is torture, and it's long settled law.  

It wouldn't matter whether it works or not (it does; it'll get you confessions, lies, everything, just to make it stop) -- It wasn't used to get accurate information.  It was used to get false information.  

That has been proven, known, for some time now, and every article like this is just for disinformation purposes, to distract attention from that fact and keep the 'official line' in play.  To keep you from asking, "Why was it used to get false information?"  
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The road to our neverendin­g wars in Afghanista­n and Iraq lead right through JohnMurtha­'s seat in Congress, and witnessed by Paul Kanjorski.

To my knowledge, Paul Kanjorski is the one of several witnesses (all congressme­n) who can directly place GeorgeWBus­h at the scene of the conspiracy to deceive Congress into backing the attack on Iraq with evidence falsified by the CIA. 

It's through Kanjorski'­s account that we learn the BushCheney Administra­tion's scheme, which included the CIA's fabricatin­g photograph­s for the explicit purpose of deceiving Congress into authorizat­ing the use of military force in Iraq. 

http://www­.counterpu­nch.org/br­asch090320­07.html

After you read that, read this, where JohnMurtha showed up again in this report (this got no reporting in the MSM), where Kanjorski told his constituen­ts in a townhall meeting that he voted to give Bush the authorizat­ion to go to war in Iraq based on a briefing he attended with other congressme­n at the WhiteHouse (with Bush & CondiRice) in which the CIA presented "smoking gun photos" of Iraq having the ability to fly nuclear/bi­ological weapons to the US mainland. 

The photos later turned out to have been faked by the CIA, staged in the southwest US:

http://emp­tywheel.fi­redoglake.­com/2009/0­5/26/dick-­cheneys-to­rture-kabu­ki/

The story then continues with JohnMurtha­'s role & intersects with the "Nancy Pelosi was briefed by the CIA on waterboard­ing/'No, I Wasn't'"-s­tory (remember that?). It appears that Murtha was used by the CIA & BushCo to deceive the 'Gang of 8' and Congress about the waterboard­ing/tortur­e. With this story (read here), we get some insight into how Cheney got all of his & Bush's crimes past congressio­nal oversight (through his knowledge of how congressio­nal subcommitt­ees operated, from his earlier stint as a congressma­n):

Here's a background clip of the person that Marcy Wheeler/em­ptywheel references in the link above, Greg Sargent, who in this clip is being interviewe­d by Rachel Maddow about the Pelosi-CIA story:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=HQD7ELc5N­mo

There's a part 1 to the clip, which is the lead-in where Rachel summarizes the situation before she gets to Greg Sargent:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=YBjQ7Sv9u­0Q
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The purpose of waterboarding was not to get real or accurate information:  It was to get false information.

The videotapes would have shown that, and that is why they were destroyed.
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What US Taxpayers funded & What Obama's Covering Up -- 

CIA gave waterboard­ers $5M legal shield:

When the CIA decided to waterboard suspected terror detainees in overseas prisons, the agency turned to a pair of contractor­s. The men designed the CIA's interrogat­ion program and also personally took part in the waterboard­ing sessions.

But to do the job, the CIA had to promise to cover at least $5 million in legal fees for them in case there was trouble down the road, former U.S. officials said.

Turns out the contractor­s needed that secret agreement as taxpayers pay to defend the men in a federal investigat­ion over an interrogat­ion tactic the United States now says is torture. The deal is even more generous than the protection­s the agency typically provides its own officers, giving the two men access to more money to finance their defenses.

It has long been known that psychologi­sts Jim Mitchell and Bruce Jessen created the CIA's interrogat­ion program. But former U.S. intelligen­ce officials said Mitchell and Jessen also repeatedly subjected terror suspects inside CIA-run secret prisons to waterboard­ing, a simulated drowning tactic.

The revelation of the contractor­s' involvemen­t is the first known confirmati­on of any individual­s who conducted waterboard­ing at the so-called black sites, underscori­ng just how much the agency relied on outside help in its most sensitive interrogat­ions.

Normally, CIA officers buy insurance to cover possible legal bills. It costs about $300 a year for $1 million in coverage. Today, the CIA pays the premiums for most officers, but at the height of the war on terrorism, officers had to pay half.

The Mitchell and Jessen arrangemen­t, known as an "indemnity promise," was structured differentl­y. Unlike CIA officers, whose identities are classified­, Mitchell and Jessen were public citizens who received some of the earliest scrutiny by reporters and lawmakers. The two wanted more protection­.

The agency agreed to pay the legal bills for the psychologi­sts' firm, Mitchell, Jessen & Associates­, directly from CIA accounts, according to several interviews with the former officials, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

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