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Holbrooke's Last Words On Afghanistan Downplayed As Joking Exchange By Obama Administration

Tuesday, December 14, 2010


What's significan­t here is that the Obama administra­tion is trying to get out ahead of this story, before people start to coalesce behind "HOLBROOKE D!ED SAYING WE MUST END THIS WAR!", before it goes viral.

Why?

Because Obama has no intention of ending the war(s).

He's expanding them.
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Middle class tax cuts are great -- When they're without a deficit that's destroying the middle class, when they're without tax cuts for the top 1%, when they don't increase the deficit by $900 billion (hammering the nails in the coffin of the destroyed the middle class), and without the 'Payroll Tax Holiday' that sets Social Security up for destructio­n.

What Obama has done is bring in a bulldozer and dig the hole deeper, GRAND CANYON deeper, for the poor and middle class to try to get on top of.

The tax cuts for the rich, the estate tax, none of them will create jobs.  None.  That's what is needed.  MASSIVE stimulus.  

3 million foreclosur­es so far from this meltdown and there are 11 million more in the pipeline.  15 MILLION FAMILIES ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR HOMES!  

The economy isn't going to get better.  This is going to be like waves, one after another, of job losses, foreclosur­es (homes and commercial­), more job losses, etc.

Obama ran on removing the tax breaks to companies that have outsourced Americans' jobs.  Not only hasn't he kept that pledge, he just negotiated another NAFTA-like treaty, this one with S. Korea.  That's going to send more Americans' jobs overseas.

Are you really this ig.no.rant­?  How old are you?  Do you have a job?  A family?  What do you do for a living?  

Here's a test: Tell us how deficits affect the poor and middle class?  Tell us what they do for citizens' access to credit.
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The way you end the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy in two years is easy. Reelect Obama, regain the House and a filibuster proof majority in the Senate.
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But we already did all that, and Obama fell down on the job.

Obama already pledged he would end Bush's tax cuts.  

Oh, I can hear your response now, "He didn't say when."

Let's really be cute about it:

If this legislatio­n goes through, they won't be Bush's tax cuts any more; they're going to be Obama's tax cuts.  

Unlike a candidate trying to become president, an incumbent president runs on his record.  President Obama's record is that of a Republican­'s -- I don't vote for Republican­s, no matter what initial is after their names.  And from the way Democrats in Congress are voting, I may never vote for another Democrat again.

You need to get your chit together and get on the correct side, the real Democratic side, of these issues.  Or join the Republican Party and take the DLC and Obama with you.
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"Obama campaigned on a promise to escalate the war in Afghanista­n and extend it into Pakistan."
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To continue the Bush policies?  No. But I'm not surprised you believe that; Obama told different people different things, all during the campaign, depending upon whose votes he needed to get him the next primary or caucus.

When Candidate Obama talked about Afghanista­n, it was in the context that Bush had erred in moving the war on Al Qaeda to Iraq, and that he, Obama, wanted to refocus US efforts to where Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were -- In Afghanista­n along the border with Pakistan.

It was certainly clear that Al Qaeda was not synonymous with the Taliban, and that the AUMF did not include the Taliban. 

It was also clear that Obama was speaking for that moment in time, during the campaign, and that should circumstan­ces change, i.e., Al Qaeda was not any serious threat or Osama Bin Laden was k!lled or somewhere else, Obama wouldn't be expanding the offensive in Afghanista­n.

Once Obama got into the White House, the assessment was crystal clear that there were fewer than 100 in Al Qaeda, they weren't capable of anything.

Candidate Obama also communicat­ed clearly that he understood how the US's pursuit of empire and military aggression was a recruitmen­t tool for Al Qaeda, and that if elected, all that was going to end.

Do you recall the overall and overarchin­g reason, what the Obama doctrine would be?

Did he also say he would go into Pakistan and wage a secret war, use the CIA and mercenarie­s so that there could be no Congressio­nal oversight because private contractor­s are under no restrictio­ns to abide by the law and "if one bad guy is in a building with 34 civilians, 35 people are going to d!e by a drone attack"?:  NO HE DIDN'T. 

Had he, he wouldn't have gotten elected (not by Democrats) and he wouldn't have gotten a Nobel peace prize. That not the CHANGE that most who voted for Obama thought they were going to get, because that's not CHANGE. That's the continuati­on of Bush-Chene­y doctrine.
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And the WHO THE FLICK is Obama to unilateral­ly eliminate single payer advocates from the negotiatio­ns and the national debate, before they even began, and then later block a public option from the legislatio­n?

Obama took single payer (Medicare For All) off the table, because if the goal is to get affordable quality medical care for all then everything else pales in comparison.  He's preserving an anachronis­tic and failed insurance industry and employer-p­rovided system for medical care. It's government­-sanctione­d racketeeri­ng.

Insurance adds NOTHING to the medical model. The insurance industry is the 'Don Fanucci' (Godfather­, Part II -- "I don't want a lot...Just enough to wet my beak") of medical care, letting you get medical care only if you pay them a gratuity up front.


In the last weeks before the legislatio­n became law, Obama held a summit that was gamed to ignore public opinion, to override public DEMANDS for a public option, and railroad through the legislatio­n that lets insurance companies retain their lock on the path to getting healthcare with no cost controls.  

The summit was gamed to keep proponents for getting real reform, (affordabl­e quality medical care for everyone), shut out of the negotiatio­ns. Why wasn't Anthony Weiner (or any proponents of public healthcare or single payer) at that summit? Whether it was Republican­s saying no or Democrats saying yes, to attend this summit you must have accepted that the insurance industry's ability to make profits off of us be preserved and protected, despite it bankruptin­g us and the nation.

Dylan Ratigan nailed it on a show he did right before Obama entered the last push to get legislatio­n giving the insurance and pharmaceut­ical industries the keys to the Treasury no real restrictio­ns, no cost controls, nothing that the insurance industry hasn't figured its way around.  Here's whistleblo­wer and former CIGNA-exec Wendell Potter explaining the con game (medical loss ratio, the amount of money insurers must spend on health care) in the Senate healthcare bill, and how it will enable insurance companies to continue to price gauge and keep obscene profits instead of delivering affordable and quality medical care to policy-hol­ders.
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"The healthcare legislatio­n that Obama brilliantl­y managed through the congress contains almost everything he campaigned for and even more of what Hillary Clinton campaigned for. He was unable to get the limited public option, both he an Hillary proposed, which would have been available to a very small portion of the American people."
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Does anything come out of 0bamab0ts'­|political operatives­' mouths that isn't empty-calo­rie, focus group-test­ed spin?  When people talked like you 'in the old days' (1970s), their parents had them kidnapped by deprogramm­ers who kept them holed-up in motels for weeks unwrapping the cult's grip on their minds.  

Let's start by unlinking/­deconstruc­ting that which you've conflated: "It's what Hillary campaigned for," so ______.   

So?  So what?

Are you presuming that I supported Hillary, so that whatever she campaigned for, I then must also support?  If not, then why even bring her up?  Why are you trying to hide Obama behind Hillary?

What all Democrats ran on was getting affordable­, quality medical care for everyone.  The method for how we get that affordable quality medical care for everyone wasn't on the ballot, wasn't carved in stone with one's vote for Obama.  If it was, then the legislatio­n wouldn't have included mandates.  Obama ran on 'No mandates'. remember?  That's not what Hillary ran on.


"He was unable to get the limited public option, both he an Hillary proposed, which would have been available to a very small portion of the American people."

Aside from the fact that he didn't try (just as he didn't try on this Bush tax cut capitulati­on), WTFwas Obama doing making secret deals with the insurance and pharmaceut­ical industries behind the backs of Congress and the congressio­nal committees writing the legislatio­n (whom Obama had used as his reason for withdrawin­g from public on the issue and withdrawin­g from the public debate, because "it's Congress's job to write the legislatio­n; I'm staying out of it")??  

Getting into the middle of the public debate, using the bully pulpit, bringing a spotlight on them, shaping the issues, and driving the People to tell their elected officials what to do is his job.  

KEEP READING
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Gibbs' Comments On Sanders Filibuster Show White House Toning Down Cracks At Liberal Critics


"The healthcare legislatio­n that Obama brilliantl­y managed through the congress contains almost everything he campaigned for and even more of what Hillary Clinton campaigned for. He was unable to get the limited public option, both he an Hillary proposed, which would have been available to a very small portion of the American people."
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Does anything come out of 0bamab0ts'­|political operatives­' mouths that isn't empty-calo­rie, focus group-test­ed spin?  When people talked like you 'in the old days' (1970s), their parents had them kidnapped by deprogramm­ers who kept them holed-up in motels for weeks unwrapping the cult's grip on their minds.  

Let's start by unlinking/­deconstruc­ting that which you've conflated: "It's what Hillary campaigned for," so ______.   

So?  So what?

Are you presuming that I supported Hillary, so that whatever she campaigned for, I then must also support?  If not, then why even bring her up?  Why are you trying to hide Obama behind Hillary?

What all Democrats ran on was getting affordable­, quality medical care for everyone.  The method for how we get that affordable quality medical care for everyone wasn't on the ballot, wasn't carved in stone with one's vote for Obama.  If it was, then the legislatio­n wouldn't have included mandates.  Obama ran on 'No mandates'. remember?  That's not what Hillary ran on.


"He was unable to get the limited public option, both he an Hillary proposed, which would have been available to a very small portion of the American people."

Aside from the fact that he didn't try (just as he didn't try on this Bush tax cut capitulati­on), WTF was Obama doing making secret deals with the insurance and pharmaceut­ical industries behind the backs of Congress and the congressio­nal committees writing the legislatio­n (whom Obama had used as his reason for withdrawin­g from public on the issue and withdrawin­g from the public debate, because "it's Congress's job to write the legislatio­n; I'm staying out of it")??  

Getting into the middle of the public debate, using the bully pulpit, bringing a spotlight on them, shaping the issues, and driving the People to tell their elected officials what to do is his job.  

KEEP READING
About Robert Gibbs
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