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DADT Conflict Explained: Why Obama Administration Lawyers Fight For A DADT Policy Obama Opposes

Thursday, October 21, 2010


The outcome would have been the same had Nader been in the race or not. Whatever the means necessary to get Bush-Cheney into the White House would have happened.



If the means to getting Bush-Cheney into office required a close election and Nader not been running, some other means would have been used.



For pity's sake, the CIA was working on GOP absentee ballots in the weeks leading up to election day in Florida. Jeb Bush & Katherine Harris had been working for two years to purge voters from the polls. Close to 200,000 ballots were never tallied, never even examined, due to undervotes.



Do people forget all the different ways that that election was gamed by the GOP, and all of the ways that the Democratic establishment abandoned Gore? And that's just in Florida, and just the ways that we learned about because of legal proceedings in the post-election days.



Independent voters have nothing to beat themselves up about; Nader is now just a handy excuse to keep the status quo in place, and 'We the People' in line, forever agreeable to voting for whoever they believe to be the lesser of two ev!ls.
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DADT Conflict Explained: Why Obama Administration Lawyers Fight For A DADT Policy Obama Opposes


RachelMaddow said it eloquently last week:



=== RobertGibbs said today “The best way to end it is for the Senate to follow the lead of the House of Representatives so that end can be implemented in a fashion that‘s consistent with our obligations in fighting two wars.”



“But absent that action,” he said, “The president, again has set up a process to end this policy. The bottom line is that this is a policy that‘s going to end. It‘s not whether it will end, but the process by which it will end.”



Here‘s the thing: The WhiteHouse line, the line from the administration on this now is that they‘d like the Senate to repeal it. Absent that action, the spokesman said. Absent that action. Absent the Senate voting to repeal it. Absent the moon crashing through the atmosphere & turning us all to green cheese.



Absent that action of the Senate repealing “DADT”, the WhiteHouse says there's an orderly process underway to get rid of the policy. And that orderly process is that the Senate will repeal it? The WhiteHouse is sternly ensuring everyone that the policy will end.



And when you drill down on how they say it will end, they say it will end because the Senate will end it even though the Senate has just chosen not to end it & the Senate is poised to get more conservative not less in the imminent elections.



This is incoherence. ==



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DADT Conflict Explained: Why Obama Administration Lawyers Fight For A DADT Policy Obama Opposes


You are not limited to voting for just Democrats and Republicans. There are other alternatives besides sitting out the election or voting for Republicans. There are other candidates running as independents, from Green to Libertarian, in just about every race.
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DADT Conflict Explained: Why Obama Administration Lawyers Fight For A DADT Policy Obama Opposes


All that Obama has to do is NOTHING. No appeal. DADT would end.



From RachelMaddow's program last week:



== AaronBelkin, an expert on the issue at UC SantaBarbara told the NewYorkTimes that, “Unless the president declines to appeal the ruling in LogCabinRepublicans versus the United States, the ‘Don‘t Ask, Don‘t Tell‘ policy probably will remain law for years.”



Unless you believe the US Senate is going to do the right thing by g@y people. This year, with JohnMcCain still there & a slate of homoph0b!c Republican Senate candidates poised to enter. Unless you believe that the US Senate after this year‘s elections is going to do the right thing by g@y service members, then the decision by the ObamaAdmin istration, whether or not to appeal this ruling, is likely a decision between k!lling this policy now & letting it survive probably forever.



Obama's DoJ appealing this ruling was not an inevitability. The administration is not obligated to appeal. If the administration believes the law is unconstitutional, there's precedent that supports the administration not appealing it & letting the law d!e.



An orderly time frame for the de@th of a law can be arranged with the court. That's the way it is. A plan that has no chance of becoming reality is not a real plan no matter how much you say it is. You can either end it or you can stop saying you will.==



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He could do an EO or he could've done nothing, not appealed & DADT would have been a relic on the scrap heap of history.



Last week on RachelMaddow:



== AaronBelkin, an expert on the issue at UCSantaBarbara told the NewYorkTimes that, “Unless the president declines to appeal the ruling in LogCabinRepublicans versus the United States, the ­­­ policy probably will remain law for years.”



Unless you believe the US Senate is going to do the right thing by g@y people. This year, with JohnMcCain still there & a slate of homoph0b!c Republican Senate candidates poised to enter. Unless you believe that the US Senate after this year‘s elections is going to do the right thing by g@y service members, then the decision by the ObamaAdmin istration, whether or not to appeal this ruling, is likely a decision between k!lling this policy now & letting it survive probably forever.



Obama's DoJ appealing this ruling was not an inevitability. The administration is not obligated to appeal. If the administration believes the law is unconstitutional, there's precedent that supports the administration not appealing it & letting the law d!e.



An orderly time frame for the de@th of a law can be arranged with the court. That's the way it is. A plan that has no chance of becoming reality is not a real plan no matter how much you say it is. You can either end it or you can stop saying you will.==



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'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Temporarily Upheld By Appeals Court


Montana Republican Party wants to make homosexuality a crime



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You're correct. Obama wants Congress to overturn it. The House already has, and the Senate voted it down two weeks ago. Obama is counting on the Senate taking it up again in a lame duck session after the election. It's not likely to happen then, either. John McCain has vowed to filibuster it should it come back.



All that Obama had to do was not appeal and DADT would have been a relic on the scrap heap of history.
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